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Theft or civil disobedience? 16 volumes go missing after Shelbyville church urges members to check out, never return library books about LGBTQ+ people

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    microwave@lemmy.world
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    A local church is urging its members to permanently remove books from the Shelby County Public Library by checking them out and never returning them. The books portray gay characters and historical figures or explore LGBTQ+ themes.

    Pamela Wilson Federspiel, who has been director of the library in downtown Shelbyville for 34 years, says the action is tantamount to “stealing.”

    But three leaders of the Reformation Church of Shelbyville defend what they call an “act of civil disobedience.”

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    • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

      A local church is urging its members to permanently remove books from the Shelby County Public Library by checking them out and never returning them. The books portray gay characters and historical figures or explore LGBTQ+ themes.

      Pamela Wilson Federspiel, who has been director of the library in downtown Shelbyville for 34 years, says the action is tantamount to “stealing.”

      But three leaders of the Reformation Church of Shelbyville defend what they call an “act of civil disobedience.”

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      zephorah@discuss.online
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      So much for “Thou shalt not steal.”

      But then, the most ardent believers do the most cherry picking with The Bible.

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      • Z zephorah@discuss.online

        So much for “Thou shalt not steal.”

        But then, the most ardent believers do the most cherry picking with The Bible.

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        pattymcb@lemmy.world
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        Even if they followed JESUS himself, they'd love God and then treat everyone else the way they would want to be treated.

        Fake Christians, imho

        (I'm an atheist)

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          Even if they followed JESUS himself, they'd love God and then treat everyone else the way they would want to be treated.

          Fake Christians, imho

          (I'm an atheist)

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          prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Fake Christians, imho

          Nah, these are real Christians. Don't make their fallacious arguments for them.

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          • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            Fake Christians, imho

            Nah, these are real Christians. Don't make their fallacious arguments for them.

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            queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works
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            Nope definitely fake. Take your anti-theisitic edgelord nonsense back to r/atheism if you wanna paint people with a broad brush

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            • Q queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works

              Nope definitely fake. Take your anti-theisitic edgelord nonsense back to r/atheism if you wanna paint people with a broad brush

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              prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              They need to change the name of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy to "no true Christian" as it makes a lot more sense these days...

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                They need to change the name of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy to "no true Christian" as it makes a lot more sense these days...

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                queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works
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                You do realize that extremists are louder than the majority of the group right?

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                • Q queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works

                  You do realize that extremists are louder than the majority of the group right?

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                  prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  I was raised in the group, I am intimately aware of what they believe.

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                  • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                    I was raised in the group, I am intimately aware of what they believe.

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                    queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works
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                    Again. I don't care that you had a wacko creationist church when you were a kid. That's not what most Christians believe

                    Source: Was also raised Christian and so were most people in Western Countries

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                    • Q queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works

                      Again. I don't care that you had a wacko creationist church when you were a kid. That's not what most Christians believe

                      Source: Was also raised Christian and so were most people in Western Countries

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                      prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                      Your religion condones slavery.

                      Jesus condoned slavery.

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                        Your religion condones slavery.

                        Jesus condoned slavery.

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                        queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works
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                        1. I'm not a Christian, but thanks for revealing your bigotry against Christians.
                        2. The slavery being condoned was an Old Testament thing, Jesus said those rules didn't matter anymore
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                        • Q queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works
                          1. I'm not a Christian, but thanks for revealing your bigotry against Christians.
                          2. The slavery being condoned was an Old Testament thing, Jesus said those rules didn't matter anymore
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                          prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          Lol bigotry. Ok.

                          Jesus DID NOT say that. He said the exact opposite of that.

                          https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A17-20&version=ESV

                          17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

                          Sounds like that includes slavery (as long as you don't beat them to death!).

                          And all Jesus had to do was say, "hey guys, maybe don't do that" once. And yet...

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                            Lol bigotry. Ok.

                            Jesus DID NOT say that. He said the exact opposite of that.

                            https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A17-20&version=ESV

                            17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

                            Sounds like that includes slavery (as long as you don't beat them to death!).

                            And all Jesus had to do was say, "hey guys, maybe don't do that" once. And yet...

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                            queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works
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                            Okay Edgelord, look It doesn't really matter because there's no denomination of Christianity today that condones slavery.

                            Edit: By Fulfilling the law, Jesus means that his sacrifice of himself has paid the debt mankind owed to the levitical law, so in a sense is was abolished. Basically, you don't need to pay the price of breaking levitical laws anymore, because Jesus already did that

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                              Okay Edgelord, look It doesn't really matter because there's no denomination of Christianity today that condones slavery.

                              Edit: By Fulfilling the law, Jesus means that his sacrifice of himself has paid the debt mankind owed to the levitical law, so in a sense is was abolished. Basically, you don't need to pay the price of breaking levitical laws anymore, because Jesus already did that

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                              prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              I love that saying anything anti-Christianity makes someone an "edgelord". Because apparently believing in magic is the default I guess.

                              Wow I really feel bad about being called an edgelord.

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                                I love that saying anything anti-Christianity makes someone an "edgelord". Because apparently believing in magic is the default I guess.

                                Wow I really feel bad about being called an edgelord.

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                                queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works
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                                No one's asking you to believe in anything.

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