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  4. German welfare state 'can no longer be financed' — Merz

German welfare state 'can no longer be financed' — Merz

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  • D darleys_brew@lemmy.ml

    Austerity doesn’t even work. It’s deliberate cruelty.

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    rafoix@lemmy.zip
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    It works for the wealthy. It saves them a lot of money on taxes.

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    • U upperbroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone

      All this while systematically crippling our tax investigation departments.

      If I ever meet Merz or someone like him, I will have choice words to say.

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      blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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      Words alone have never stopped fascists.

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      • R rafoix@lemmy.zip

        It works for the wealthy. It saves them a lot of money on taxes.

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        darleys_brew@lemmy.ml
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        It’s short sighted though.

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        • D darleys_brew@lemmy.ml

          It’s short sighted though.

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          rafoix@lemmy.zip
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          It’s not short sighted for the wealthy. Over the last 40 years, the wealthy have amassed massive amounts of income and wealth. It worked out great for them and the politicians that they purchase.

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          • E evono@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            While I couldn't find the article anymore ( it's a bit old ) I just found one for 12 for 170 thousand.

            Another where they pay 20k for each because they are circular and more.

            Tax waste is just all surrounding.

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            null@piefed.au
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            So you're just making things up based on the vibe.

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            • umbrella@lemmy.mlU umbrella@lemmy.ml

              there you go, they finally said it out loud. austerity it is.

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              rooty@lemmy.world
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              "Why isn't anyone having kids? I specifically requested it."

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              • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

                The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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                treczoks@lemmy.world
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                Then how about stopping welfare for millionaires?

                Or stop subsiding e.g. plane fuel. Better for the environment anyway.

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                • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

                  The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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                  phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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                  Merz is a conservative. They're all like that.

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                  • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

                    The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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                    toad31@lemmy.cif.su
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                    #30

                    Sure it can.

                    Just raise taxes on the wealthy.

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                    • M marsza@lemmy.cafe

                      How’s your Spanish? I hear good things about Chile.

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                      ragas@lemmy.ml
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                      This Chile?

                      https://finance.yahoo.com/video/violent-clashes-erupt-chile-protests-025713342.html
                      https://redherald.org/2025/08/16/thousands-mobilize-and-struggle-in-chile/

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                      • soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                        My partner and I almost moved to Germany last year and I am so glad we didn't. If we're going to be in a fascist country, I'd prefer to be a citizen since white fascists tend to frown extra hard on us brown immigrants.

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                        ragas@lemmy.ml
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                        While the current government in Germany is certainly not the best, it is very far away from a fascist country.

                        Most likely the right wing CDU talks big now to wiggle out some small concessions against their socialist coalition partner and againt the green/left opposition.

                        They can not change anything big because otherwise the current coalition would fold.

                        The CDU can not form a coalition or cooperate with the ultra right AFD because that would cost them a big chunk of their current voters.

                        They currently have nothing going for them that would win them voters on their own.

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                        • P petrjanda@gonzo.markets

                          They will just move to the next country.

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                          ragas@lemmy.ml
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                          Let them. If they don't pay their share, they are not worth keeping.

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                          • D darleys_brew@lemmy.ml

                            It’s short sighted though.

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                            rapchee@lemmy.world
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                            if you assume that they want what they say

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                            • R rafoix@lemmy.zip

                              It’s not short sighted for the wealthy. Over the last 40 years, the wealthy have amassed massive amounts of income and wealth. It worked out great for them and the politicians that they purchase.

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                              darleys_brew@lemmy.ml
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                              My view is that it will ultimately ruin the country. Has in the U.K.

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                              • D darleys_brew@lemmy.ml

                                My view is that it will ultimately ruin the country. Has in the U.K.

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                                rafoix@lemmy.zip
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                                I agree.

                                The wealthy do not care about countries or borders. Once a land is pilfered, their wealth makes it relatively easy to find another place to live.

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                                • R rafoix@lemmy.zip

                                  I agree.

                                  The wealthy do not care about countries or borders. Once a land is pilfered, their wealth makes it relatively easy to find another place to live.

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                                  darleys_brew@lemmy.ml
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                                  Oh, we’re on the same page then. It’s terrifying.

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                                  • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

                                    The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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                                    theacharnian@lemmy.ca
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                                    The passive voice in that statement is doing a LOT of heavy lifting there, Friedrich.

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                                    • P phutatorius@lemmy.zip

                                      Merz is a conservative. They're all like that.

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                                      smayonak@lemmy.world
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                                      Its crazy to me that the only left leaning party in Germany was split by internal divisions between neoliberalism and progressive politics. How was that even possible when more than half of Germany's voters are left leaning?

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                                      • S smayonak@lemmy.world

                                        Its crazy to me that the only left leaning party in Germany was split by internal divisions between neoliberalism and progressive politics. How was that even possible when more than half of Germany's voters are left leaning?

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                                        zqps@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Are you referring to SPD? They haven't bothered with actual left-leaning politics for a while. Die Linke is our party on the left, and they are experiencing a renaissance right, but unfortunately not nearly as much as the far right.

                                        To answer your question: Most German voters are centrists with a mix of vaguely conservative and social democratic views. And they've been exposed to economic anxiety narratives and xenophobic fear-mongering for the past two decades, while lacking the political education to smell the populist bullshit for what it is in a social media environment defined by anti-intellectualism and fake news.

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