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There's a lot of discussion of Mississippi's age verification law for social media today, after Bluesky announced they're blocking the state.

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  • thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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    thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange
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    There's a lot of discussion of Mississippi's age verification law for social media today, after Bluesky announced they're blocking the state.

    Note that Mississippi's requirements go far beyond the Online Safety Act, MIssissippi's law, HB 1126, requires age verification for all users, and parental consent for users under 18., no matter what the content of the site is. Last week the US Supreme Court declined to block the law while it's being challenged in the courts, even though Kavanaugh described it as "likely unconstitutional".

    The law clearly should be found unconstitutional - the amicus brief from @CenDemTech, @eff et al discusses why. Still, with the current Supreme Court, who knows; they just the (somewhat narrower) Texas age verification law also should have been found unconstitutional, but SCOTUS said it was okay. So who knows. And of course this is exactly the kind of chilling effect they're aiming for, which is why it's so disappointing that SCOTUS didn't block its enforcement until the case is heard.

    As far as I know there isn't any guidance yet for people running fedi instances (or message boards, which are also covered). If you're running a US-based fedi instance, it's might well be worth talking to your lawyer about this. Here's the legislation, and here's the langauge from Section 4 (1)

    "A digital service provider may not enter into an agreement with a person to create an account with a digital service unless the person has registered the person's age with the digital service provider. A digital service provider shall make commercially reasonable efforts to verify the age of the person creating an account with a level of certainty appropriate to the risks that arise from the information management practices of the digital service provider."

    @fediverse @fediversenews

    #fediverse #mississippi #ageVerification

    kirk@startrek.websiteK jerry@feddit.onlineJ oliver@lemmy.pifferi.ioO 3 Replies Last reply
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    • thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchangeT thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange

      There's a lot of discussion of Mississippi's age verification law for social media today, after Bluesky announced they're blocking the state.

      Note that Mississippi's requirements go far beyond the Online Safety Act, MIssissippi's law, HB 1126, requires age verification for all users, and parental consent for users under 18., no matter what the content of the site is. Last week the US Supreme Court declined to block the law while it's being challenged in the courts, even though Kavanaugh described it as "likely unconstitutional".

      The law clearly should be found unconstitutional - the amicus brief from @CenDemTech, @eff et al discusses why. Still, with the current Supreme Court, who knows; they just the (somewhat narrower) Texas age verification law also should have been found unconstitutional, but SCOTUS said it was okay. So who knows. And of course this is exactly the kind of chilling effect they're aiming for, which is why it's so disappointing that SCOTUS didn't block its enforcement until the case is heard.

      As far as I know there isn't any guidance yet for people running fedi instances (or message boards, which are also covered). If you're running a US-based fedi instance, it's might well be worth talking to your lawyer about this. Here's the legislation, and here's the langauge from Section 4 (1)

      "A digital service provider may not enter into an agreement with a person to create an account with a digital service unless the person has registered the person's age with the digital service provider. A digital service provider shall make commercially reasonable efforts to verify the age of the person creating an account with a level of certainty appropriate to the risks that arise from the information management practices of the digital service provider."

      @fediverse @fediversenews

      #fediverse #mississippi #ageVerification

      kirk@startrek.websiteK This user is from outside of this forum
      kirk@startrek.websiteK This user is from outside of this forum
      kirk@startrek.website
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      But I thought BlueSky was open source and decentralized? /s

      EDIT: In case it's not obvious (as it apparently isn't to OP) if BlueSky was either of those things then it could not be simply shut down by a CEO.

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      • thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchangeT thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange

        There's a lot of discussion of Mississippi's age verification law for social media today, after Bluesky announced they're blocking the state.

        Note that Mississippi's requirements go far beyond the Online Safety Act, MIssissippi's law, HB 1126, requires age verification for all users, and parental consent for users under 18., no matter what the content of the site is. Last week the US Supreme Court declined to block the law while it's being challenged in the courts, even though Kavanaugh described it as "likely unconstitutional".

        The law clearly should be found unconstitutional - the amicus brief from @CenDemTech, @eff et al discusses why. Still, with the current Supreme Court, who knows; they just the (somewhat narrower) Texas age verification law also should have been found unconstitutional, but SCOTUS said it was okay. So who knows. And of course this is exactly the kind of chilling effect they're aiming for, which is why it's so disappointing that SCOTUS didn't block its enforcement until the case is heard.

        As far as I know there isn't any guidance yet for people running fedi instances (or message boards, which are also covered). If you're running a US-based fedi instance, it's might well be worth talking to your lawyer about this. Here's the legislation, and here's the langauge from Section 4 (1)

        "A digital service provider may not enter into an agreement with a person to create an account with a digital service unless the person has registered the person's age with the digital service provider. A digital service provider shall make commercially reasonable efforts to verify the age of the person creating an account with a level of certainty appropriate to the risks that arise from the information management practices of the digital service provider."

        @fediverse @fediversenews

        #fediverse #mississippi #ageVerification

        jerry@feddit.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jerry@feddit.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jerry@feddit.online
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        I'm exhausted with all this. And it's not my fight. The fight belongs to the people of Mississippi. They elected their "leaders."

        Until I know for sure that I am not on the hook to pay a $10K penalty for each person on my servers, I've blocked all Mississippi IP addresses from logging in and registering on my Mastodon, Piefed, and Friendica servers.

        Wyoming will probably be next.

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        • thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchangeT thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange

          There's a lot of discussion of Mississippi's age verification law for social media today, after Bluesky announced they're blocking the state.

          Note that Mississippi's requirements go far beyond the Online Safety Act, MIssissippi's law, HB 1126, requires age verification for all users, and parental consent for users under 18., no matter what the content of the site is. Last week the US Supreme Court declined to block the law while it's being challenged in the courts, even though Kavanaugh described it as "likely unconstitutional".

          The law clearly should be found unconstitutional - the amicus brief from @CenDemTech, @eff et al discusses why. Still, with the current Supreme Court, who knows; they just the (somewhat narrower) Texas age verification law also should have been found unconstitutional, but SCOTUS said it was okay. So who knows. And of course this is exactly the kind of chilling effect they're aiming for, which is why it's so disappointing that SCOTUS didn't block its enforcement until the case is heard.

          As far as I know there isn't any guidance yet for people running fedi instances (or message boards, which are also covered). If you're running a US-based fedi instance, it's might well be worth talking to your lawyer about this. Here's the legislation, and here's the langauge from Section 4 (1)

          "A digital service provider may not enter into an agreement with a person to create an account with a digital service unless the person has registered the person's age with the digital service provider. A digital service provider shall make commercially reasonable efforts to verify the age of the person creating an account with a level of certainty appropriate to the risks that arise from the information management practices of the digital service provider."

          @fediverse @fediversenews

          #fediverse #mississippi #ageVerification

          oliver@lemmy.pifferi.ioO This user is from outside of this forum
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          oliver@lemmy.pifferi.io
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          #4

          "It's decentralized! It's open!" they've said. But, despite all doubts from the very beginning, Bluesky is no option for an open and decentralized web at all. There ARE reasons for protecting users under 18, but cutting a whole state off the platform is simply a certain kind of censorship.

          There was hope for this service but the crypto-bro-background and the current state of the USA did a complete disservice to the platform, disqualifying it as an alternative for any federated, decentralized and free network like Mastodon and Co.!

          https://bsky.social/about/blog/08-22-2025-mississippi-hb1126

          #fediverse #mississippi #ageVerification

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          • jerry@feddit.onlineJ jerry@feddit.online

            I'm exhausted with all this. And it's not my fight. The fight belongs to the people of Mississippi. They elected their "leaders."

            Until I know for sure that I am not on the hook to pay a $10K penalty for each person on my servers, I've blocked all Mississippi IP addresses from logging in and registering on my Mastodon, Piefed, and Friendica servers.

            Wyoming will probably be next.

            kirk@startrek.websiteK This user is from outside of this forum
            kirk@startrek.websiteK This user is from outside of this forum
            kirk@startrek.website
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            Do you live in Mississippi? Because there's no reason to capitulate otherwise unless you plan on going there on vacation (no reason to do that either).

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            • kirk@startrek.websiteK kirk@startrek.website

              Do you live in Mississippi? Because there's no reason to capitulate otherwise unless you plan on going there on vacation (no reason to do that either).

              jerry@feddit.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jerry@feddit.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jerry@feddit.online
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              #6

              Doesn't work that way. States agree to enforce each other's civil orders

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              • jerry@feddit.onlineJ jerry@feddit.online

                Doesn't work that way. States agree to enforce each other's civil orders

                kirk@startrek.websiteK This user is from outside of this forum
                kirk@startrek.websiteK This user is from outside of this forum
                kirk@startrek.website
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                #7

                incorrect actually

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                • jerry@feddit.onlineJ jerry@feddit.online

                  I'm exhausted with all this. And it's not my fight. The fight belongs to the people of Mississippi. They elected their "leaders."

                  Until I know for sure that I am not on the hook to pay a $10K penalty for each person on my servers, I've blocked all Mississippi IP addresses from logging in and registering on my Mastodon, Piefed, and Friendica servers.

                  Wyoming will probably be next.

                  carighan@piefed.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
                  carighan@piefed.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
                  carighan@piefed.world
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                  #8

                  Entirely understandable. Like you say, it's not your fight. This is more so if one creates something and isn't even from the US, if the wankers in a specific US state elect shitty government, that's not on you in a wholly different country to go up against.

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                  • kirk@startrek.websiteK kirk@startrek.website

                    But I thought BlueSky was open source and decentralized? /s

                    EDIT: In case it's not obvious (as it apparently isn't to OP) if BlueSky was either of those things then it could not be simply shut down by a CEO.

                    carighan@piefed.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    carighan@piefed.world
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                    #9

                    As evident by Lemmy instances not doing the same thing. /s

                    There's a difference between being decentralized and doing something illegal, you know?

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                    • oliver@lemmy.pifferi.ioO oliver@lemmy.pifferi.io

                      "It's decentralized! It's open!" they've said. But, despite all doubts from the very beginning, Bluesky is no option for an open and decentralized web at all. There ARE reasons for protecting users under 18, but cutting a whole state off the platform is simply a certain kind of censorship.

                      There was hope for this service but the crypto-bro-background and the current state of the USA did a complete disservice to the platform, disqualifying it as an alternative for any federated, decentralized and free network like Mastodon and Co.!

                      https://bsky.social/about/blog/08-22-2025-mississippi-hb1126

                      #fediverse #mississippi #ageVerification

                      carighan@piefed.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
                      carighan@piefed.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
                      carighan@piefed.world
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                      How come plenty federated stuff is also blocking people then? Apparently that alone does not help?

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                      • carighan@piefed.worldC carighan@piefed.world

                        As evident by Lemmy instances not doing the same thing. /s

                        There's a difference between being decentralized and doing something illegal, you know?

                        kirk@startrek.websiteK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        kirk@startrek.website
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                        I agree 100%, BlueSky is not decentralized.

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