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Shocking videos show Nigerian mobs beating gay men amid wave of anti-LGBTQ+ violence

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  • B blubber28@lemmy.world

    You can thank the European overlords pushing christianity everywhere during the colonial ages for shit like this.

    Not that the islam is much better in other regions, but nigeria is christian afaik

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    belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Nigeria has both a large Christian and a large Muslim population. This is an abrahamitic problem, not just a European one.

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      jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world
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      It's incredibly effortlessly easy to understand that being gay is fine.

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      • T tollana1234567@lemmy.today

        pretty much is caused by american evangelical groups inside AFRICA, they even helped write some of the anti-lgbtq+ legislation in some african countries.

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        rammer@sopuli.xyz
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        This is what I was referencing in my post.

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        • rammer@sopuli.xyzR rammer@sopuli.xyz

          Thanks America for exporting your hate!

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          yetanotheruser@discuss.tchncs.de
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          The incident occurred in Kano state, one of 14 majority-Muslim states in northern Nigeria subject to Sharia law.

          In northern states governed by Sharia law, homosexuality is punishable by death.

          Damn I thought those Americans were exporting evangelical Christianity, not Sharia law. TIL.

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          • T tortellinius@lemmy.world

            How is this the fault of Europeans? Not saying colonialism didn't cause an endless list of problems, but the same European countries are in the global minority of having legalized same-sex marriage nowadays lol. None of this is meant to diminish the persecution of homosexuals that happened in the European past. It very much existed, but there's plenty of evidence of it existing outside of Europe as well.

            It's not at all about the religion.

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            doben@lemmy.wtf
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            Europeans generated their wealth by robbing it from the colonies, by subjugating the local indiginous population, forcing their religion on them, destroying their culture, enslaving them to extract ressources. But they didn‘t bother to bring any of their achievements for the locals to enjoy, just extraction, sucking them dry under brute force.

            Apart from that, progressive policies such as same-sex marriage didn‘t just come into fruition, because Europeans are such a cool bunch, this kind of progress had to be fought for by the minorities themselves. And it will be taken away again the further capitalism falls into it’s natural crisis named fascism; see trans rights / DEI in the US or just have a look at far right talking points surging in Europe also.

            Every-fucking-thing is the fault of Europeans. You really don‘t have to take it personally, tho. You as an individual are not at fault. But the level of your own ignorance lies in your own hands.

            The point is, comparing European cultural progress with that of their plundered colonies is one of the most disingeniuous and chauvinist things you can do. Don‘t be that guy.

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            • T tollana1234567@lemmy.today

              pretty much is caused by american evangelical groups inside AFRICA, they even helped write some of the anti-lgbtq+ legislation in some african countries.

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              toad31@lemmy.cif.su
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              It's honestly a pretty smart play by their part.

              Since people in developing nations don't have access to the information that we do, they're unaware of the cultural battles that we are fighting.

              It's a lot easier to get in on "ground zero" and convince people that your side is correct if they don't know that there are any sides at all in the beginning.

              It's telling that this is happening to gay people. It'll be a long while before their culture starts to accept trans people, if they ever do.

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                chosensilence@pawb.social
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                there is nothing shocking about violent homophobia in Africa, unfortunately. it is a very common mindset on that continent. truly, the world is largely hostile to queer folks. they want us silenced and repressed or dead.

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                • B belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  Nigeria has both a large Christian and a large Muslim population. This is an abrahamitic problem, not just a European one.

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                  star@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  And really, it all comes down to patriarchy... It's bad for almost everyone, men included

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                  • star@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS star@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                    And really, it all comes down to patriarchy... It's bad for almost everyone, men included

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                    belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    Patriarchy, Authoritarianism, Capitalism, all of this shit combined.

                    and too many people are too invested in the system to change anything.

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                    • B blubber28@lemmy.world

                      If a country where many people follow a book that says homosexuals should be stoned to death are abusing homosexuals I think it is naive to dismiss the connection.

                      And yes, Europe nowadays is quite tolerant, and I am very thankful to live there myself as a queer man, but it was a very different story in many countries only 100 years ago.

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                      tortellinius@lemmy.world
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                      I am not dismissing the connection, I just wonder what it's based upon. Sure, you could assume as such, but starting to talk about the bible will be a conversation that turns in on itself. The largest church i. e., the Catholic church, emphasizes its own existence before the Bible itself, highlighting the church over the scripture in religious matters. And there definitely are several denominations that fully integrate homosexuality (see some Old Catholic churches for example), albeit still in minority but growing. Not that I'm defending anything else about it. I'm not a Christian. But to fully illustrate my point it doesn't take a long google search to find out that homosexuality can also be blamed as an European import. However, Europeans historically definitely did have a more binary world-view on gender, and there is evidence it impacted colonized countries (British more so than others).

                      However, does any of this really matter? I am saying that I believe simply blaming today's homophobia on historical exploitation, which definitely had an socio-economic impact, is not gonna fix what is definitely a problem nowadays. Actually, blaming European colonization for crimes committed by people in Nigeria is taking away from their own responsiblity and agency to improve the issue. Whether religious or not, both LGTBQ+ right nor religious freedom should infringe on one another.

                      But there are many crimes colonizing countries should pay for until this day. Hope you don't feel like I'm trying to argue against you, I just wanna have a interesting conversation!

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                      • rammer@sopuli.xyzR rammer@sopuli.xyz

                        Thanks America for exporting your hate!

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                        Who is paying you to say this bullshit?

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