Can't have nice things
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Yeah, which is why I use my sports car. Different tools and such.
Truck and sports car? That's some advanced compensation.
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In memory of my 95 extended cab
98 Ranger XLT extended cab. I've added trailer brake control for livestock hauling and a modern stereo with bluetooth, handsfree calling, and a sealed 10" sub cause I'm a metalhead.
It's got the pushrod V6 that will last forever, in 99 they switched over to those awful self-destructing cassette timed V6s.
It throws no codes. Redid intake manifold and valve gaskets about 18 months ago, but I've got increased Idle RPM and minor oil leak again. So, I have to redo it, looking for a more permanent fix.
My truck does 10x the work most of those oversized pavement princess trucks do. It's a little truck for our little play farm.
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Truck and sports car? That's some advanced compensation.
I race cars in actual scca and lemons races 15 times a year supported by my family and friends while enjoying a 15 year old Miata that's slower than my wifes Outback.
I am living my literal childhood dream. There are far better ways to try and flex than driving a 20 year old truck you bought for $2000 and driving around an NC Miata.
It's just so amazing how you (and most) make up these imaginary personalities and personas of people based off an article you've read 7 years ago linking to a private report that nobody has actually
.Like, conspiracy theory Joe Rogan levels of trusting that and then creating an imaginary person in your head. Bonkers!
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Most new trucks are basically just luxury SUVs for men who stomp their feet and say they want the boyyyy car, not the mom one.
Note to any offended truck owners: I said most! Some of my best friends are truck owners!
Actually true! And the best part is that my truck-owning friends are petite women. But they both do actual farm work in addition to their day jobs, so their trucks are beat up and dirty workhorses.
They insist on lending me a truck any time I need to do a big lumber run to home depot. You know that old saying about instead of owning X you want multiple generous friends who own X, lol.
In addition, I have been busy this summer and I have literally spent a couple grand on lumber for what is hopefully a once in a lifetime project. Believe it or not, I'm still driving an old Mazda3 and didn't have to buy a truck! (Granted, my initial purchase was so big that I would have paid the delivery fee even if I daily drove a Canyonero with a trailer)
And those people who do buy trucks would often be happy with a much smaller one. They don't exist. No, not even the Maverick. That's "well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it" for trucks.
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In memory of my 95 extended cab
2 things:
- The new truck has 4 doors. That's a crew cab.
- Part of the reason for today's massive trucks is a change in CAFE regs starting in 2012 that bases fuel economy standards on vehicle footprint. It's easier to make a larger footprint than a more efficient vehicle.
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Very few people need a truck like yours. They need one guy in their friend group with a truck like yours who they can ask for a favor every couple years.
In some places some substantial percentage need, like, an uncovered coated spray off space big enough to throw a deer into.
So, someone else needs to own and pay for such a vehicle just you can mooch off of them for free?
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Don't need a truck bed to tow. Need a strong frame and good electric engine (better torque)
So where do you apartment dwellers store your trailer?
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So you're saying they have shit frames? And need stronger frames to go with their atrong electric motors?
Nope. He's saying that the weight of the battery pack eats up 2000lbs of towing capacity. Plus the shit frames they are built on to cut weight to help due to the battery packs.
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I got an 87 F150 that hauls trash and kayaks... what's my status?
A perfect 5/7
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And those people who do buy trucks would often be happy with a much smaller one. They don't exist. No, not even the Maverick. That's "well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it" for trucks.
Yeah absolutely. And I believe we have some really stupid laws that help that effect along. Consumers are also to blame as well, but they always are.
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In memory of my 95 extended cab
Why can't they make the Maverick a 2 door!
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In memory of my 95 extended cab
The Slate is the currently the only modern option for a mini-truck (if it releases).
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The Slate is the currently the only modern option for a mini-truck (if it releases).
I look forward to it. It's roughly the same price as my 95 Ranger, inflation adjusted.
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98 Ranger XLT extended cab. I've added trailer brake control for livestock hauling and a modern stereo with bluetooth, handsfree calling, and a sealed 10" sub cause I'm a metalhead.
It's got the pushrod V6 that will last forever, in 99 they switched over to those awful self-destructing cassette timed V6s.
It throws no codes. Redid intake manifold and valve gaskets about 18 months ago, but I've got increased Idle RPM and minor oil leak again. So, I have to redo it, looking for a more permanent fix.
My truck does 10x the work most of those oversized pavement princess trucks do. It's a little truck for our little play farm.
Nice. Mine was Cayman Green, a couple of shades lighter than yours and a 4-banger, but similar otherwise.
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I had an 06 Ford Ranger (actually a Mazda). RWD with a 4 cylinder and a 5 speed. No frills at all. That was a phenomenal truck. You could put snow tires on it, throw some sand bags in the bed, and go just about anywhere.
I loved the Ford Mazda connection. I wish Ford hadn't sold off their stake in the company. My current car is a Mazda 3 and the (Mazda designed) 4-cylinder in it was also used in later model Rangers before they were discontinued.
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2 things:
- The new truck has 4 doors. That's a crew cab.
- Part of the reason for today's massive trucks is a change in CAFE regs starting in 2012 that bases fuel economy standards on vehicle footprint. It's easier to make a larger footprint than a more efficient vehicle.
It’s
easiermore profitable to makea larger footprintthe consumer buy a larger vehicle than a more efficient vehicle.Minor fixes, spot on otherwise.
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I'll ask again, any data to actually support this. Been asking 6 years now and rarely get a response. And when I do it's t9 secondary sources that all link back to a private industry report with no methodology or a MSNBC report with some of the shittiest questions for a poll I've seen
There's 2 F series trucks for every square mile of this country. Do you think they are all out there hauling loads and trailers, off roading and actualling being used for truck stuff, or do you think that the vast majority of them are single occupant highway battering rams built to make small men feel big and important?
Remember, 2 per square mile, and that just one series of trucks, from 1 manufacturer, going back just 10 years.
In the absence of hard statistics, I think a gut check on the sheer scale of trucks being sold in the US will suffice.
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Towing and having a real back seat. I'm really not sure what's so complicated.
Both can tow. The new Ranger can tow more because it's really a mini F-150. Buying a compact pickup to get back seats is dumb.
It doesn't bother me that larger trucks exist, but some of us want compact pickups.
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Both can tow. The new Ranger can tow more because it's really a mini F-150. Buying a compact pickup to get back seats is dumb.
It doesn't bother me that larger trucks exist, but some of us want compact pickups.
The ranger only tows 8000 lbs iirc. Not enough for me. I'd probably get a large SUV at that point. I think most people I've met with bigger trucks care mostly about towing capacity vs having a bed.
I agree there is a gap in what you want, I just personally think the use case is less common and not what I want haha.
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There's 2 F series trucks for every square mile of this country. Do you think they are all out there hauling loads and trailers, off roading and actualling being used for truck stuff, or do you think that the vast majority of them are single occupant highway battering rams built to make small men feel big and important?
Remember, 2 per square mile, and that just one series of trucks, from 1 manufacturer, going back just 10 years.
In the absence of hard statistics, I think a gut check on the sheer scale of trucks being sold in the US will suffice.
Everyone I know uses them pretty consistently to tow. I know of one or two people who don't use it well. I think a portion of them probably could get away with a ranger.
In the absence of any real data, trying to roughly include my small suburban town just outside of rural (more used and working class users) anecdotally it wouldn't surprise me to see anywhere between 20-35% of owners not having any sort of real use for their truck. I'd wager that most of those owners are new owners as well.
That's not to say there aren't dumb idiots living in downtown NYC being morons. I just don't think it's remotely as crazy as the fuck cars community would have you believe.
