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  • nico_198x@europe.pubN nico_198x@europe.pub

    no, but i am sick of it. we don't have to be this way.

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    ameancow@lemmy.world
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    #66

    Focus that energy on areas that are making people actually contentious and hateful towards each other like rampant capitalistic greed, subversion of democracy and internet grifters who manufacture hate for engagement. Talking shit about the shows we like and don't like is fun.

    People have been debating their standards for media, entertainment and franchises for longer than we have written history. Literally, look up Roman graffiti. It's fine, it's fun even. If you're seeing malice and stress in these kinds of debates, you need to back away from it entirely for a bit. Just don't get involved, stay healthy.

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    • U unfortunateshort@lemmy.world

      I'm not sure whether that's a hot take, and I know there are different levels of tolerance, but I think you might have a problem if you drink 20 beers in 2-3 days (assuming 4-6% alcohol). Or at least you will probably have, starting day 2 😄

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      nalivai@lemmy.world
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      There is a big difference if it's a periodic activity or a one time party thing. If it's a one time one, it's not a big deal, apart from heavy hangover afterwards.

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      • C corn@lemmy.ml

        Didnt the Soviets supply their guys with vodka?

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        angrycommiekender@lemmy.world
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        The Soviets did all sorts of inadvisable things with their space program

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        • A ameancow@lemmy.world

          Focus that energy on areas that are making people actually contentious and hateful towards each other like rampant capitalistic greed, subversion of democracy and internet grifters who manufacture hate for engagement. Talking shit about the shows we like and don't like is fun.

          People have been debating their standards for media, entertainment and franchises for longer than we have written history. Literally, look up Roman graffiti. It's fine, it's fun even. If you're seeing malice and stress in these kinds of debates, you need to back away from it entirely for a bit. Just don't get involved, stay healthy.

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          nico_198x@europe.pub
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          part of that is calling out negative behaviours. critique is one thing. but there are too many shitbirds today who think it's somehow cool and erudite to yuck other people's yums.

          as you said, a lot of the blame for encouraging and normalizing that behaviour goes to grifters, social media, capitalism. but every person gets to make a choice on what kind of person they want to be today and what energy they want to put out.

          more ppl need to start choosing the good.

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          • A ameancow@lemmy.world

            As a purist, we can agree that the only real series was TNG, this was the cornerstone, built on the hallowed but kind of silly ground made by the original series, but followed by DS9 when we grew up a little, and we can kinda accept Voyager was a thing that happened somewhere in the distance but we don't get too close.

            There was nothing else. The franchise ended and we all moved on, happy for the good run. "ALL GOOD THINGS..."

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            atomic@programming.dev
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            wtf is a Star Trek "purist" and why should anyone care about your arbitrary opinion?

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            • A atomic@programming.dev

              wtf is a Star Trek "purist" and why should anyone care about your arbitrary opinion?

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              ameancow@lemmy.world
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              why should anyone care about your arbitrary opinion

              By this metric, what's the point of even browsing any forums or websites at all? Everything is someone's arbitrary opinion, if it makes you feel bad to read something you disagree with, you can't fix that outside of yourself.

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              • N nalivai@lemmy.world

                There is a big difference if it's a periodic activity or a one time party thing. If it's a one time one, it's not a big deal, apart from heavy hangover afterwards.

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                redacted@infosec.pub
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                #72

                You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy), so that one party can potentially (EDIT: Pay attention to this word and stop blowing things out of proportion lemmy! Potential does not mean always, it means there is a chance involved) fuck you up more than periodical drinking. I think it was called alcoholic cerebellar degeneration. This is why I refuse to touch strong drinks like vodka and whenever I drink beer, I take a sip once per minute or two, not chug the can in 5 minutes, and never drink again in the next few days.

                Consume your drugs responsibly, people.

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                • brem@sh.itjust.worksB brem@sh.itjust.works

                  One of my favorite things about Lemmy ~ Star Trek references can occur anywhere, at any given moment.

                  I have a personal metric system for rating social networking platforms based on the percentage of Trekkies/Trekkers.

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                  ameancow@lemmy.world
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                  I agree, but after spending some time here, it's amazing how sensitive the people are about their fandoms on these more niche communities. Like guys, come on... it's just entertainment, you're allowed to have opinions, not everything should make you feel so stressed.

                  At least in larger sites like reddit people can have lighthearted spats and debates about silly things like media. Some of the folks here really need some sunlight.

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                  • A ameancow@lemmy.world

                    why should anyone care about your arbitrary opinion

                    By this metric, what's the point of even browsing any forums or websites at all? Everything is someone's arbitrary opinion, if it makes you feel bad to read something you disagree with, you can't fix that outside of yourself.

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                    atomic@programming.dev
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                    I love that your response to what a "star trek purist" is is a defense of bs opinions on the internet

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                    • S smeagol666@mander.xyz

                      NASA, with the tampons.

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                      blackstampede@sh.itjust.works
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                      #75

                      27? 30. 37? 2.

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                      • R redacted@infosec.pub

                        You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy), so that one party can potentially (EDIT: Pay attention to this word and stop blowing things out of proportion lemmy! Potential does not mean always, it means there is a chance involved) fuck you up more than periodical drinking. I think it was called alcoholic cerebellar degeneration. This is why I refuse to touch strong drinks like vodka and whenever I drink beer, I take a sip once per minute or two, not chug the can in 5 minutes, and never drink again in the next few days.

                        Consume your drugs responsibly, people.

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                        patches@ttrpg.network
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                        #76

                        Do you realize how much "too much" is in your scenario?

                        Like alcohol poisoning dead level. Can't walk. Can't stay awake. Can't breathe. Can't do anything.

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                        • S squaresinger@lemmy.world

                          If you have a sample size of 0 and a backup plan of "crash and burn", it does make sense to be extra careful with the preparation.

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                          mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                          I prefer my backup plans to include "halt and catch fire"

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                          • A atomic@programming.dev

                            I love that your response to what a "star trek purist" is is a defense of bs opinions on the internet

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                            nihaduncan@lemmy.world
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                            I guess you missed the part where he quoted the exact part of your comment that he was replying to. Or do you just want to ignore that part so you don’t have to defend it?

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                            • R redacted@infosec.pub

                              You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy), so that one party can potentially (EDIT: Pay attention to this word and stop blowing things out of proportion lemmy! Potential does not mean always, it means there is a chance involved) fuck you up more than periodical drinking. I think it was called alcoholic cerebellar degeneration. This is why I refuse to touch strong drinks like vodka and whenever I drink beer, I take a sip once per minute or two, not chug the can in 5 minutes, and never drink again in the next few days.

                              Consume your drugs responsibly, people.

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                              hugenerd@lemmy.ca
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                              You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy),

                              I have never heard of this in over half a century of drinking. Link or you made it up. Difficulty: no links to Mormon/religious nutcase made up shit.

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                              • E exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                it probably came in a 100 count

                                A 100-count box seems like an absurdly large unit size. Are you doing the very thing that the anecdote is intended to highlight?

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                                mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                                Procurement for business/government/military (including and especially NASA), is very different than what you would see on a shelf at your local drug store.

                                The drug store can't buy a single box of tampons. They have to get an entire case of boxes of tampons. If each box is say, 20 tampons, and there's more than 5 of those per case, then they're buying at least 100 tampons so they can get a single box of them.

                                There's a lot of alternatives they could have looked into, like neighboring government institutions which may already stock them, asking them to supply a smaller quantity than they would have needed to order, or ordering outside of their typical channels and sending the intern down the road to buy a box from the nearest pharmacy... Those things wouldn't really get accounted for in their budgeting though... So they would prefer to order through their normal distribution.

                                It's a funny comment to make to Ride, "is 100 enough?" And I'm sure everyone had a good chuckle.

                                Regardless they probably didn't see another good option for ordering other than to just buy a case of them and figure out the rest later.

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                                • R redacted@infosec.pub

                                  You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy), so that one party can potentially (EDIT: Pay attention to this word and stop blowing things out of proportion lemmy! Potential does not mean always, it means there is a chance involved) fuck you up more than periodical drinking. I think it was called alcoholic cerebellar degeneration. This is why I refuse to touch strong drinks like vodka and whenever I drink beer, I take a sip once per minute or two, not chug the can in 5 minutes, and never drink again in the next few days.

                                  Consume your drugs responsibly, people.

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                                  nalivai@lemmy.world
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                                  Alcoholic cerebellar degeneration is caused by chronic consumption.
                                  If you aren't alcoholic already, and unless you have some very specific condition, the body will start getting rid of alcohol way quicker than you will be consuming it, through any means necessary.
                                  Drinking a lot is still dangerous, but mostly due to drunken behaviour.
                                  You're indeed right that drugs should be consumed responsibly, and alcohol is poison, but it's also not that dangerous, unless it's an addiction.

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                                  • A angrycommiekender@lemmy.world

                                    Nah. Heat is a real issue on the space station. Maybe a 6 pack for the three Xonauts that were up there, but excess sweating and excess heat production is a real concern for the ISS, or really any spacecraft, they have heatsinks that stick into a vacuum, and that is the problem. The vacuum is only ≈3K, or -270.15° C, but a vacuum is not particularly receptive to heat dispersal. Up on the ISS or any other spacecraft, you really wouldn't want alcohol at all. It would absolutely cause you to burn too hot, causing excess heat to be introduced into the system.

                                    Weed edibles should be a better option. Specifically NOT flower or concentrates since even a vape is going to be introducing, potentially, too much heat into the craft.

                                    Actually, I wanna see some Xonauts do some Shrooms.

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                                    mkwt@lemmy.world
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                                    The vacuum is only ≈3K, or -270.15° C, but a vacuum is not particularly receptive to heat dispersal.

                                    This is true for all of the black parts of the sky.

                                    It is not true for that big yellow ball that shines on the space station half of the time. That big yellow ball is as bright and hot as a hot desert day on the surface. Daylight can raise the vacuum temp up to +250 or +300 C. And it also means that the night time temps don't cool down all the way to 3K.

                                    So the ISS is continuously exposed to these thermal cycles on the outside. As a heat load these should dwarf any marginal heat loads introduced by whatever recreational drugs. And the station has to have radiator capacity handle it all plus margin. Remember, too, that the ISS crew also has to do hard exercise 2 hours per day.

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                                    • U unfortunateshort@lemmy.world

                                      I'm not sure whether that's a hot take, and I know there are different levels of tolerance, but I think you might have a problem if you drink 20 beers in 2-3 days (assuming 4-6% alcohol). Or at least you will probably have, starting day 2 😄

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                                      boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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                                      If it's like a once a year event, is it really that bad? It's what I do for summer solstice. I don't easily get drunk though. Maybe 15 beers an evening to get me drunk, so 30-40 for a weekend if I were to drink only beer and nothing stronger.

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                                      • P perishthethought@piefed.social

                                        NASA once asked astronaut Sally Ride if 100 tampons would be enough for her week-long mission in space, but she later clarified that this number was excessive. While the engineers were concerned about potential needs, Ride humorously noted that a much smaller amount would suffice.

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                                        daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        On NASA defence is not the first time that due problems with vehicles an astronaut have to stay up there for much much much longer than their planed stance.

                                        At the end I think the astronaut said that 50 would be enough. So the NASA estimate wasn't really that far off. As it's totally normal for a woman to use half or double the tampons than other woman during period.

                                        But it is a funny story indeed.

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                                        • T tipsymcgee@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          I mean, if you’re doing a full weekend of activities with friends those beers could be spaced out far enough that you’re never more than slightly buzzed (small cans, <5%ABV). But yeah, if it’s a regular thing, it’s not a great look.

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                                          boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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                                          Yeah if you crack open the first cold one at noon when it gets hot while you're helping with some outdoors work and finish your last one at 3 AM talking shit with your friends, you probably never get drunk with those amounts. If you drink it all over 4 hours per evening, different story.

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