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Corbyn is good on Gaza, but his terrible on literally everything else.

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  • K knowone@slrpnk.net

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Corbyn+support+Crimea+annexation

    Yep as I expected, nothing about supporting the annexation or openly working with Russian propaganda/intel services. In fact what I'm seeing from googling that is many examples of him actually publicly condemning the Russian governments actions over the years, including the invasion of Ukraine. If he's under Russian employ as you say, I'm very surprised they didn't fire him years ago

    But yeah you're clearly someone who sees the Ukrainian government and NATO as perfect and could never do anything wrong and will continue to do so. So anyone who says even slightly different is worthy to be demonised by you, whether it's actually true or not they even said anything like that. And before you accuse me of being a "Russia sympathiser" or whatever I completely believe Russia is the aggressor and that we should be supoorting Ukraine. Just not that Ukraine and NATO have been 100% good themselves

    Like, for instance, it's also funny that people can't see that NATO are loving the invasion. It means they don't have to all openly go to war with Russia to severely weaken it, something they've always wanted. They can just use Ukraine in a proxy war and allow the country and people to suffer all the hardships while the rest of NATO just pump Ukraine with war funding and the politicians in government in those countries get an easy win in popularity. Starmer is a great example of this, just about everything he's done is unpopular and the UK population for the most part are at the very least disappointed in him. The only time he was really popular was when he was all nice to Zelenskyy after the terrible Trump meeting he went through. Which is exactly what Starmer should have done of course, but it just shows how much of an easy goal it is

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    #11

    Your starting point was a web search! Corbyn is a huge promoter or russian propaganda on NATO, his fake peacnik organization recognized Crimea as part of russia.

    Ukraine and NATO have not been good? What does that even mean?

    That's a russian propaganda narrative. You don't speak Ukrainian (or russian) and you've never even lived in Ukraine (Donbas or any other part).

    Get the fuck out of here with your "NATO is at fault" and "proxy war" bullshit, you ignorant, lazy, dishonest, fake leftist! A real leftist would recognise that countries have the right to self determination.

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    • A arcane2077@sh.itjust.works

      Repeating it doesn't make it true. How are you not a supporter of Russian genocidal imperialism?

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      #12

      It's true, Corbyn worked with a RT, a russian propaganda service that's managed by russian intel services.

      Corbyn is one the largest promoter of russian propaganda narratives about "NATO is responsible for the invasion".

      Corbyn's fake-peacenik organziation recognized Crimea as part of russia.

      Even russians know it's not true (about NATO), their sole goal is to manipulate ignorant, fake-leftists like yourself. You're justing how ignorant you are.

      It's literally written in their key doctrinal text on foreign policy operations.

      You don't speak russian (or Ukrainian) and you've never lived in Ukraine or russia. You're just a fake leftist who is in it for aesthetic reasons.

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      • skiluros@sh.itjust.worksS skiluros@sh.itjust.works

        Your starting point was a web search! Corbyn is a huge promoter or russian propaganda on NATO, his fake peacnik organization recognized Crimea as part of russia.

        Ukraine and NATO have not been good? What does that even mean?

        That's a russian propaganda narrative. You don't speak Ukrainian (or russian) and you've never even lived in Ukraine (Donbas or any other part).

        Get the fuck out of here with your "NATO is at fault" and "proxy war" bullshit, you ignorant, lazy, dishonest, fake leftist! A real leftist would recognise that countries have the right to self determination.

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        justaraccoon@lemmy.world
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        #13

        Can you provide interviews or clips where he's been a promoter of russian propaganda?

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        • J justaraccoon@lemmy.world

          Can you provide interviews or clips where he's been a promoter of russian propaganda?

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          #14
          • He has worked with RT, a Russian propaganda service aimed at the west managed by russian intel services.
          • He routinely promotes russian propaganda narratives about NATO
          • His fake peacenik organization (he is the executive director who is responsible for such press releases) recognized russia as part of Ukraine.
          • He openly opposed weapons deliveries to Ukraine after the full scale in order to give russia an edge in the invasion

          I don't even need to do a web search to write out these points. Who would have thought that in a country being invaded by russia for 11 years out of its 34 years of independence, the media would report on Western leaders collaborating with russians?

          Or do you think we are all dumb eastern european sour cream n1ggaz who don't have journalism?

          You can look up the sources for the abovementioned points, it's not difficult. Or assume I am lying, whatever works for you.

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          • skiluros@sh.itjust.worksS skiluros@sh.itjust.works
            • He has worked with RT, a Russian propaganda service aimed at the west managed by russian intel services.
            • He routinely promotes russian propaganda narratives about NATO
            • His fake peacenik organization (he is the executive director who is responsible for such press releases) recognized russia as part of Ukraine.
            • He openly opposed weapons deliveries to Ukraine after the full scale in order to give russia an edge in the invasion

            I don't even need to do a web search to write out these points. Who would have thought that in a country being invaded by russia for 11 years out of its 34 years of independence, the media would report on Western leaders collaborating with russians?

            Or do you think we are all dumb eastern european sour cream n1ggaz who don't have journalism?

            You can look up the sources for the abovementioned points, it's not difficult. Or assume I am lying, whatever works for you.

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            justaraccoon@lemmy.world
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            You're making the statements, you bring the receipts.

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            • K knowone@slrpnk.net

              Wow I don't know if I've ever come across anyone who holds all of those specific opinions. It's genuinely interesting to me. I'd have expected "he's a raging antisemite" instead of "good on Gaza", given the rest of what you said

              Or is it when you say "literally everything else" do you just mean "other foreign policy stuff"?

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              nialv7@lemmy.world
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              "he's an antisemite" is sooo yesteryear, you need to keep up with the propaganda smear machine.

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              • skiluros@sh.itjust.worksS skiluros@sh.itjust.works
                • He has worked with RT, a Russian propaganda service aimed at the west managed by russian intel services.
                • He routinely promotes russian propaganda narratives about NATO
                • His fake peacenik organization (he is the executive director who is responsible for such press releases) recognized russia as part of Ukraine.
                • He openly opposed weapons deliveries to Ukraine after the full scale in order to give russia an edge in the invasion

                I don't even need to do a web search to write out these points. Who would have thought that in a country being invaded by russia for 11 years out of its 34 years of independence, the media would report on Western leaders collaborating with russians?

                Or do you think we are all dumb eastern european sour cream n1ggaz who don't have journalism?

                You can look up the sources for the abovementioned points, it's not difficult. Or assume I am lying, whatever works for you.

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                nialv7@lemmy.world
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                you think we are all dumb eastern european sour cream n1ggaz

                wow steady on my dude

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                • N nialv7@lemmy.world

                  you think we are all dumb eastern european sour cream n1ggaz

                  wow steady on my dude

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                  skiluros@sh.itjust.works
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                  #18

                  I am just highlighting how this comes off as.

                  The gall to assume I am just making shit up because I hate daddy Corbyn. Not mention thinking that our Ukrainian-language media (and even english language media run by Ukrainian diaspora in places like Canada) lack integrity to validate such reporting.

                  Height of arrogance, racism even.

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                  • J justaraccoon@lemmy.world

                    You're making the statements, you bring the receipts.

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                    skiluros@sh.itjust.works
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                    #19

                    There is that supremacist paternalism that I was talking about.

                    This is exactly why Western "leftists" are either useful idiots (E.g. Varoufakis, who otherwise has very good ideas and a modern leftist worldview) or collaborators with the russians (Corbyn).

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                    • skiluros@sh.itjust.worksS skiluros@sh.itjust.works

                      I am just highlighting how this comes off as.

                      The gall to assume I am just making shit up because I hate daddy Corbyn. Not mention thinking that our Ukrainian-language media (and even english language media run by Ukrainian diaspora in places like Canada) lack integrity to validate such reporting.

                      Height of arrogance, racism even.

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                      knowone@slrpnk.net
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                      #20

                      You have to be a troll my friend. That, or just unhinged and deep in the delusion and copium. Either way it's been hilarious and very entertaining to see what you think counts as reasoned arguments come on and on. The using of racial slurs while accusing others of "racism" was the cherry on the cake (I'm also white by the way, like most Ukrainians)

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                      • skiluros@sh.itjust.worksS skiluros@sh.itjust.works

                        It's true, Corbyn worked with a RT, a russian propaganda service that's managed by russian intel services.

                        Corbyn is one the largest promoter of russian propaganda narratives about "NATO is responsible for the invasion".

                        Corbyn's fake-peacenik organziation recognized Crimea as part of russia.

                        Even russians know it's not true (about NATO), their sole goal is to manipulate ignorant, fake-leftists like yourself. You're justing how ignorant you are.

                        It's literally written in their key doctrinal text on foreign policy operations.

                        You don't speak russian (or Ukrainian) and you've never lived in Ukraine or russia. You're just a fake leftist who is in it for aesthetic reasons.

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                        knowone@slrpnk.net
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                        #21

                        Ahh I see you are a Russian genocide supporter, you weren't able to prove otherwise and us just saying words with no evidence is enough to prove our point that you are a supporter right? I mean I didn't have to do a google search to know that about you, you're famously a supporter of Russia

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                        • K knowone@slrpnk.net

                          You have to be a troll my friend. That, or just unhinged and deep in the delusion and copium. Either way it's been hilarious and very entertaining to see what you think counts as reasoned arguments come on and on. The using of racial slurs while accusing others of "racism" was the cherry on the cake (I'm also white by the way, like most Ukrainians)

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                          skiluros@sh.itjust.works
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                          #22

                          You're only saying this because you can't address the well documented points I brought up.

                          Anyone reading my post can see the context.

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                          • skiluros@sh.itjust.worksS skiluros@sh.itjust.works

                            There is that supremacist paternalism that I was talking about.

                            This is exactly why Western "leftists" are either useful idiots (E.g. Varoufakis, who otherwise has very good ideas and a modern leftist worldview) or collaborators with the russians (Corbyn).

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                            justaraccoon@lemmy.world
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                            Mate you either speak reason or shut up, I can literally say you're Putin's alt account, my words mean nothing without proof, and same with yours, so either add something of value or don't say anything at all, tired of your copy pasted messages of no substance.

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