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  • K kibiz0r@midwest.social

    Zhaif

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    pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I loved Idea Channel.

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    • A aloafofbread@lemmy.ml

      Nope that is far from the only argument.

      1. It is how the word was originally said and intended to be used. Evidence: the literal first advertisement for the format: "choosy developers choose GIF", a pun on the advertisement for JIF peanut butter.

      2. the pronunciation of g before a vowel is not always hard. Giraffe. Gin.

      3. the pronunciation of the individual words in an acronym don't define its pronunciation. NASA - Aeronautic, Association - do you pronounce it NÆSÂ? ASAP - do you say ÂSÂP or AySAP?

      It's fine to say it however you want, but to act like one way is definitively correct, for the reasons you cite anyway, is bad

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      papastevesy@lemmy.world
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      I didn't cite any reasons and I didn't say that there is a correct and incorrect way to pronounce it now, just that the way they chose to pronounce it originally was arbitrary and unintuitive. Add a "t" to the end, what does that spell? The pronunciations of giraffe and gin are equally unintuitive to modern American English speakers, they're just old words that have been well-established in the lexicon so no one thinks about that. If someone came up with the word gin today, we'd probably be having the same argument about it.

      And when I said it's the only argument, I meant it's the only one that holds any water. It's still leaking all over the place.

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      • C curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Wouldn't doubt it.

        Some folks get unreasonably mad about what they consider "right".

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        princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        That's,,,, exactly what it sounded like you were doing...

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          unknown@piefed.social
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          #30

          This will be included in Alecto The Ninth, mark my words.

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          • B bocky@lemmy.world

            Jod made the Jiraffes and the Giraffes and they were best friends. But then one Jiraffe found God and he spited Jod and all the Giraffes with all his might.

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            kbobabob@lemmy.world
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            Did Jeorge of the gungle come by too?

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            • K kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com

              NASA, not NAySA, SCUBA, not SCUBbA, LASER, not LASsER. Many such cases.

              ATM is not an acronym, though, just an initialism, so the letters are pronounced individually.

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              tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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              All initialisms are acronyms

              https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

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              • M madrigal@lemmy.world

                Given that there’s also a .jif format, the J pronunciation makes even less sense.

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                kbobabob@lemmy.world
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                #33

                .gif came first and no one uses .jif anymore because there are better options.

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                • B bocky@lemmy.world

                  Jod made the Jiraffes and the Giraffes and they were best friends. But then one Jiraffe found God and he spited Jod and all the Giraffes with all his might.

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                  tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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                  #34

                  I'll just post my comment from when I ran across this on lemmy before

                  I’ll tell the agile fragile fugitive gin-drinking giraffes eating ginger ginseng to imagine gingerly using their digits to engineer a geological survey of the gist of your comment. They ate too much gingerbread and now have gingivitis, so the margins of those attracted to religion aren’t as rigid as the original origins of those of that region and we have to remain vigilant lest magic supersede logic, which of course would be terrible for legislation of the legions.

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                  • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                    That's,,,, exactly what it sounded like you were doing...

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                    curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    I'm pointing to the lead of the team that created it. They get to name it, not me.

                    I'm also not oddly mad about it like the person replying to me with lots of exclamation points, the user in OPs image, or the person using their alt that has only been used to downvote people they are in conversations with for the past few months.

                    All I said was the people responsible for it say its a soft g, not a hard g.

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                    • riskable@programming.devR riskable@programming.dev

                      It's an acronym, people! Say it right:

                      "Gee" "Eye" "Eff"

                      ...or impress us all with your knowledge: Graphics Interchange Format.

                      Make CompuServe proud.

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                      bumblefumble@mander.xyz
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                      If it's an acronym it wouldn't be pronounced like that, that would be an initialism.

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                      • K kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        NASA, not NAySA, SCUBA, not SCUBbA, LASER, not LASsER. Many such cases.

                        ATM is not an acronym, though, just an initialism, so the letters are pronounced individually.

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                        wizard_pope@lemmy.world
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                        It's ireelevant anyway since the english pronounciation is so inconsistent.

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                        • M madrigal@lemmy.world

                          Given that there’s also a .jif format, the J pronunciation makes even less sense.

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                          curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          .jif was named to follow .gif.

                          Its also .jfif to be accurate, and no one really used .jif or .jfif.

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                            cornelius_wangenheim@lemmy.world
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                            That would just confirm my suspicion that God is a moron.

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                            • H horni@lemmy.world

                              The "G" stands for "Graphics". Why would anybody pronounce it "jif"?

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                              tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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                              How do you pronounce CD?

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                              • C cornelius_wangenheim@lemmy.world

                                That would just confirm my suspicion that God is a moron.

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                                imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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                                You understand it actually is pronounced jif right?

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                                • puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                  id vibe with jayfeg if it meant everyone pronounces gif correctly

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                                  tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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                                  We already pronounce it correctly.

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                                  • T tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world

                                    How do you pronounce CD?

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                                    rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    Cee-Deez nutz

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                                    • R rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      Cee-Deez nutz

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                                      • C curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        Because at the origin of the format, "choosy graphic designers choose .GIF". Which is a direct reference to JIF, the brand of peanut butter, and their tagline.

                                        The pronunciation of an acronym often has little to nothing to do with the words themselves they represent, and more to do with the acronym itself as though it were a word.

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                                        grimy@lemmy.world
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                                        If you pronounce gif based on the word itself, it would clearly have a hard "G". I don't think it's decided by the creator anymore then by the words making up the acronym either.

                                        Imo, word pronunciation and meaning depends on whatever "takes" in society. Most just say it like it would sound, the creators pronunciation clearly lost.

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                                        • G grimy@lemmy.world

                                          If you pronounce gif based on the word itself, it would clearly have a hard "G". I don't think it's decided by the creator anymore then by the words making up the acronym either.

                                          Imo, word pronunciation and meaning depends on whatever "takes" in society. Most just say it like it would sound, the creators pronunciation clearly lost.

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                                          curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          I don't think it's decided by the creator anymore then by the words making up the acronym either.

                                          I mean, they got to name it... How it sounds is part of that...

                                          Most just say it like it would sound, the creators pronunciation clearly lost.

                                          How long have people been talking about how to pronounce gif?

                                          I don't think there are any winners or losers here.

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