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  • M madrigal@lemmy.world

    Given that there’s also a .jif format, the J pronunciation makes even less sense.

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    curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    .jif was named to follow .gif.

    Its also .jfif to be accurate, and no one really used .jif or .jfif.

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      cornelius_wangenheim@lemmy.world
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      That would just confirm my suspicion that God is a moron.

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      • H horni@lemmy.world

        The "G" stands for "Graphics". Why would anybody pronounce it "jif"?

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        tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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        How do you pronounce CD?

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        • C cornelius_wangenheim@lemmy.world

          That would just confirm my suspicion that God is a moron.

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          imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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          You understand it actually is pronounced jif right?

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          • puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            id vibe with jayfeg if it meant everyone pronounces gif correctly

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            tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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            We already pronounce it correctly.

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            • T tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world

              How do you pronounce CD?

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              rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Cee-Deez nutz

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              • R rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                Cee-Deez nutz

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                tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world
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                ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠿⠿⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
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                • C curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  Because at the origin of the format, "choosy graphic designers choose .GIF". Which is a direct reference to JIF, the brand of peanut butter, and their tagline.

                  The pronunciation of an acronym often has little to nothing to do with the words themselves they represent, and more to do with the acronym itself as though it were a word.

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                  grimy@lemmy.world
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                  If you pronounce gif based on the word itself, it would clearly have a hard "G". I don't think it's decided by the creator anymore then by the words making up the acronym either.

                  Imo, word pronunciation and meaning depends on whatever "takes" in society. Most just say it like it would sound, the creators pronunciation clearly lost.

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                  • G grimy@lemmy.world

                    If you pronounce gif based on the word itself, it would clearly have a hard "G". I don't think it's decided by the creator anymore then by the words making up the acronym either.

                    Imo, word pronunciation and meaning depends on whatever "takes" in society. Most just say it like it would sound, the creators pronunciation clearly lost.

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                    curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    I don't think it's decided by the creator anymore then by the words making up the acronym either.

                    I mean, they got to name it... How it sounds is part of that...

                    Most just say it like it would sound, the creators pronunciation clearly lost.

                    How long have people been talking about how to pronounce gif?

                    I don't think there are any winners or losers here.

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                    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipT tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip

                      All initialisms are acronyms

                      https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym

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                      kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      From that link:

                      The word acronym typically applies when the resulting thing can be read as a word; for example, radar comes from "radio detection and ranging" and scuba comes from "self-contained underwater breathing apparatus." The word initialism only applies when the resulting thing is read as an abbreviation; for example DIY, which comes from "do it yourself," is pronounced by saying the names of the letters.

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                      • I imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works

                        You understand it actually is pronounced jif right?

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                        heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                        it's pronounced jod right

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                        • K kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          From that link:

                          The word acronym typically applies when the resulting thing can be read as a word; for example, radar comes from "radio detection and ranging" and scuba comes from "self-contained underwater breathing apparatus." The word initialism only applies when the resulting thing is read as an abbreviation; for example DIY, which comes from "do it yourself," is pronounced by saying the names of the letters.

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                          tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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                          Right, typically, not exclusively.

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                            1stq@feddit.org
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                            What about this fucking radio station in Germany?:

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                            • T tempermentalanomaly@lemmy.world

                              How do you pronounce CD?

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                              user224@lemmy.sdf.org
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                              KD - Kompact Disc
                              Brought to you by KDE

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                                _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works
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                                Yes, but how would Jod pronounce PNG?

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                                  I loved Idea Channel.

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                                  kibiz0r@midwest.social
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                                  Here’s an idea: bring back Idea Channel

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                                    Yes, but how would Jod pronounce PNG?

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                                    quadhammer@lemmy.world
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                                    Pee en jee

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                                    • C curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      I don't think it's decided by the creator anymore then by the words making up the acronym either.

                                      I mean, they got to name it... How it sounds is part of that...

                                      Most just say it like it would sound, the creators pronunciation clearly lost.

                                      How long have people been talking about how to pronounce gif?

                                      I don't think there are any winners or losers here.

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                                      grimy@lemmy.world
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                                      I mean, they got to name it... How it sounds is part of that

                                      How it sounds is a lot more related to basic prononciation rules then the arbitrary whims of the inventor.

                                      In this case, he chose to name it GIF which is, believe it or not, pronounced gif in the English language. If he wanted to have it sound like jif, he should have named it JIF.

                                      Not to say that we don't sometimes disregard the rules for certain words. Ultimately a words meaning and prononciation is collectively decided through usage. I think collectively, we have chosen to ignore the creators lack of basic linguistic skills and prononce the word how it's written.

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                                      • G grimy@lemmy.world

                                        I mean, they got to name it... How it sounds is part of that

                                        How it sounds is a lot more related to basic prononciation rules then the arbitrary whims of the inventor.

                                        In this case, he chose to name it GIF which is, believe it or not, pronounced gif in the English language. If he wanted to have it sound like jif, he should have named it JIF.

                                        Not to say that we don't sometimes disregard the rules for certain words. Ultimately a words meaning and prononciation is collectively decided through usage. I think collectively, we have chosen to ignore the creators lack of basic linguistic skills and prononce the word how it's written.

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                                        curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        If you read my name, and I pointed out that your pronunciation was wrong, would you tell me my pronunciation is incorrect due to pronunciation rules rather than how my parents named me?

                                        Edit: and I'll just note, a soft g is very well defined, and is usually behind an e, i, or y, while a hard g is typically behind an a, o, or u, but let's focus on the whole "who gets to choose how a name is pronounced" bit for a moment.

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                                          signtist@bookwyr.me
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                                          I always felt like this was a weird argument. Language is always in flux. It's why the definition of "literally" now includes a definition that it's a synonym of "figuratively" since people used it that was so much.

                                          If enough people think gif should be pronounced like "god", then it should. If the "jif" pronunciation has enough people who use it, then that's valid, too. Hell, if a bunch of people started legitimately saying it should be a homonym with the word "plankton," even that'd be valid.

                                          Words are about conveying meaning; the same meaning is intended with both pronunciations, and understood by the people hearing it. There's nothing to argue about.

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