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Trump mandates flag burners face prosecution in one of biggest challenges to the First Amendment in decades

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  • K kieron115@startrek.website

    Yes, as part of a flag retirement ceremony. Although the code allows for any form of "dignified" destruction.

    §8. Respect for flag

    No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

    (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

    (b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

    (c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free, except as may be necessary in limited circumstances and done in a respectful manner as part of a military or patriotic observance.

    (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

    (e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

    (f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.

    (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

    (h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

    (i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

    (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

    (k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

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    kieron115@startrek.website
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    Actually, reading this makes it seem that all those AI pictures of Trump as a super hero are federally illegal if there's a rendering of the U.S. flag on them. hmmmmmmmmmm

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    • N neidu3@sh.itjust.works

      Not sure about the US, but what I was taught here in Norway during my time in the army is that the colors are to be separated by cutting the seams so that the individual pieces no longer constitute a flag. Then you burn the individual colors. I imagine separating the colors would be a PITA with a US flag.

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      kieron115@startrek.website
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      Gotta get one of those star shaped hole punches and take each individual star out! (/sarcasm)

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      • Z zahille7@lemmy.world

        I feel like a paper cutter could be considered valid for disposing of the flag

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        kieron115@startrek.website
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        #44

        Assuming you could use the paper cutter without the flag touching a surface of any kind then sure.

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          kieron115@startrek.website
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          https://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/free-speech-flag-burning_1.pdf

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          • B buffalox@lemmy.world

            Sexually assaulted by Trump, but he thinks he is allowed to because he is rich.

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            klear@quokk.au
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            #46

            In a rare instance he's absolutely correct.

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            • K klear@quokk.au

              In a rare instance he's absolutely correct.

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              buffalox@lemmy.world
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              It's still disgusting, but maybe he will walk despite the overwhelming evidence of the assault. 😋

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              • V viking_hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                Then you burn the president

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                aramova@infosec.pub
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                Don't you fucking threaten me with a good time.

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                • K kieron115@startrek.website

                  Assuming you could use the paper cutter without the flag touching a surface of any kind then sure.

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                  neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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                  #49

                  Billion(th) dollar business idea: aerial paper cutters / hole punchers. Wanna see invest?

                  Although, I think it would compete with AGM-114R-9X.

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                  • K kieron115@startrek.website

                    Yes, as part of a flag retirement ceremony. Although the code allows for any form of "dignified" destruction.

                    §8. Respect for flag

                    No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

                    (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

                    (b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

                    (c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free, except as may be necessary in limited circumstances and done in a respectful manner as part of a military or patriotic observance.

                    (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

                    (e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

                    (f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.

                    (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

                    (h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

                    (i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

                    (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

                    (k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

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                    anunusualrelic@lemmy.world
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                    #50

                    Ok, but panties is fine? Right?

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                    • launcheskayaks@lemmy.worldL launcheskayaks@lemmy.world

                      Where the Epstein files at dawg

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                      wanderwisley@lemmy.world
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                      #51

                      We don’t support burning the flag! We do support raping kids!

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                      • launcheskayaks@lemmy.worldL launcheskayaks@lemmy.world

                        Where the Epstein files at dawg

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                        cdf12345@lemmy.zip
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                        • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                          I thought I remembered a supreme court decision in the past that ruled specifically in favor of protecting flag burning, not that anything established matters anymore. Yay fucking fascism.

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                          yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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                          It's actually written into the fucking flag code that it is how you properly dispose of a flag that is no longer serviceable. He going to prosecute our military?

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                            mangionedontmiss@lemmy.ca
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                            Yeah, that's unconstitutional.

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                            • F frongt@lemmy.zip

                              Flag burners shall be punished to the FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW!

                              (There is no punishment proscribed for violations of the flag code.)

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                              captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                              The fullest extent of the law on this issue is famously not at all, though mild harassment by cops is permitted as they don't need to know the law

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                              • T thepantser@sh.itjust.works

                                This is the most desecrating thing that can be done to a flag. Molested by Trump.

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                                captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                                I'm shocked. The flag seems far too old for him

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                                  son_named_bort@lemmy.world
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                                  https://youtu.be/061Y_Wa8Byg

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