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    puddinghelmet@lemmy.world
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    US Vice President J.D. Vance does not believe Moscow is obstructing a potential peace agreement in Ukraine, as Russia has made "significant concessions" to President Donald Trump. He also says there will be no US troops in Ukraine if peace is reached.

    In an interview with NBC News, Vance said the Russians have "made significant concessions for the first time in three and a half years." This reportedly occurred when Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin met earlier this month in Alaska. "They are willing to be flexible on some of their key demands," Vance said.

    He said, among other things, that Moscow has recognized "that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war" and that it "cannot install a puppet government in Kyiv." "Have they made all the concessions? Of course not. But we are making progress," he added.

    Claiming regions

    Reuters reported Thursday, citing three Russian sources close to the Kremlin, that Moscow is prepared to freeze the front line in Zaporizhia and Kherson. These are regions the country claimed in June 2024. The Russians are also reportedly willing to withdraw from the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy, and Dnepropetrovsk.

    But Moscow is reportedly sticking to its demands that Ukraine relinquish the eastern Donbas region, abandon its ambition to join NATO, and keep Western troops out of the country. Russia is also reportedly unwilling to return the Crimean peninsula, annexed in 2014.

    Vance said today that Washington wants to offer Ukraine security guarantees, but he emphasized: "There will be no American troops in Ukraine."

    'Troops important'

    That is precisely what is important for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said today that he hopes the country will receive security guarantees from the United States and other Western allies if a deal is reached with Russia. Having troops present in the country, "or as they say, 'boots on the ground,' is important to us," Zelensky said.

    US envoy Keith Kellogg is currently in Ukraine. Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said during a meeting with him today in Kyiv that she had discussed security guarantees. "This is not just about military guarantees, but also about political stability and economic strength," she wrote on social media.

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      US Vice President J.D. Vance does not believe Moscow is obstructing a potential peace agreement in Ukraine, as Russia has made "significant concessions" to President Donald Trump. He also says there will be no US troops in Ukraine if peace is reached.

      In an interview with NBC News, Vance said the Russians have "made significant concessions for the first time in three and a half years." This reportedly occurred when Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin met earlier this month in Alaska. "They are willing to be flexible on some of their key demands," Vance said.

      He said, among other things, that Moscow has recognized "that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war" and that it "cannot install a puppet government in Kyiv." "Have they made all the concessions? Of course not. But we are making progress," he added.

      Claiming regions

      Reuters reported Thursday, citing three Russian sources close to the Kremlin, that Moscow is prepared to freeze the front line in Zaporizhia and Kherson. These are regions the country claimed in June 2024. The Russians are also reportedly willing to withdraw from the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy, and Dnepropetrovsk.

      But Moscow is reportedly sticking to its demands that Ukraine relinquish the eastern Donbas region, abandon its ambition to join NATO, and keep Western troops out of the country. Russia is also reportedly unwilling to return the Crimean peninsula, annexed in 2014.

      Vance said today that Washington wants to offer Ukraine security guarantees, but he emphasized: "There will be no American troops in Ukraine."

      'Troops important'

      That is precisely what is important for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said today that he hopes the country will receive security guarantees from the United States and other Western allies if a deal is reached with Russia. Having troops present in the country, "or as they say, 'boots on the ground,' is important to us," Zelensky said.

      US envoy Keith Kellogg is currently in Ukraine. Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said during a meeting with him today in Kyiv that she had discussed security guarantees. "This is not just about military guarantees, but also about political stability and economic strength," she wrote on social media.

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      redweasel@lemmy.world
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      Of course. If Ukraine surrenders the whole of the country and gives up the “problem people” there will be peace. Sounds more like the US has given concessions to RU.

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        US Vice President J.D. Vance does not believe Moscow is obstructing a potential peace agreement in Ukraine, as Russia has made "significant concessions" to President Donald Trump. He also says there will be no US troops in Ukraine if peace is reached.

        In an interview with NBC News, Vance said the Russians have "made significant concessions for the first time in three and a half years." This reportedly occurred when Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin met earlier this month in Alaska. "They are willing to be flexible on some of their key demands," Vance said.

        He said, among other things, that Moscow has recognized "that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war" and that it "cannot install a puppet government in Kyiv." "Have they made all the concessions? Of course not. But we are making progress," he added.

        Claiming regions

        Reuters reported Thursday, citing three Russian sources close to the Kremlin, that Moscow is prepared to freeze the front line in Zaporizhia and Kherson. These are regions the country claimed in June 2024. The Russians are also reportedly willing to withdraw from the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy, and Dnepropetrovsk.

        But Moscow is reportedly sticking to its demands that Ukraine relinquish the eastern Donbas region, abandon its ambition to join NATO, and keep Western troops out of the country. Russia is also reportedly unwilling to return the Crimean peninsula, annexed in 2014.

        Vance said today that Washington wants to offer Ukraine security guarantees, but he emphasized: "There will be no American troops in Ukraine."

        'Troops important'

        That is precisely what is important for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said today that he hopes the country will receive security guarantees from the United States and other Western allies if a deal is reached with Russia. Having troops present in the country, "or as they say, 'boots on the ground,' is important to us," Zelensky said.

        US envoy Keith Kellogg is currently in Ukraine. Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said during a meeting with him today in Kyiv that she had discussed security guarantees. "This is not just about military guarantees, but also about political stability and economic strength," she wrote on social media.

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        Why is the “translated source article”, which is already in English, completely different from the actual article itself? Other than maybe one pull quote, none of what is on the post is actually from the linked article

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          US Vice President J.D. Vance does not believe Moscow is obstructing a potential peace agreement in Ukraine, as Russia has made "significant concessions" to President Donald Trump. He also says there will be no US troops in Ukraine if peace is reached.

          In an interview with NBC News, Vance said the Russians have "made significant concessions for the first time in three and a half years." This reportedly occurred when Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin met earlier this month in Alaska. "They are willing to be flexible on some of their key demands," Vance said.

          He said, among other things, that Moscow has recognized "that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war" and that it "cannot install a puppet government in Kyiv." "Have they made all the concessions? Of course not. But we are making progress," he added.

          Claiming regions

          Reuters reported Thursday, citing three Russian sources close to the Kremlin, that Moscow is prepared to freeze the front line in Zaporizhia and Kherson. These are regions the country claimed in June 2024. The Russians are also reportedly willing to withdraw from the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy, and Dnepropetrovsk.

          But Moscow is reportedly sticking to its demands that Ukraine relinquish the eastern Donbas region, abandon its ambition to join NATO, and keep Western troops out of the country. Russia is also reportedly unwilling to return the Crimean peninsula, annexed in 2014.

          Vance said today that Washington wants to offer Ukraine security guarantees, but he emphasized: "There will be no American troops in Ukraine."

          'Troops important'

          That is precisely what is important for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said today that he hopes the country will receive security guarantees from the United States and other Western allies if a deal is reached with Russia. Having troops present in the country, "or as they say, 'boots on the ground,' is important to us," Zelensky said.

          US envoy Keith Kellogg is currently in Ukraine. Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said during a meeting with him today in Kyiv that she had discussed security guarantees. "This is not just about military guarantees, but also about political stability and economic strength," she wrote on social media.

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          betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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          Maybe the Russians should just get the fuck back to Russia and stay there. How hard is that?

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            US Vice President J.D. Vance does not believe Moscow is obstructing a potential peace agreement in Ukraine, as Russia has made "significant concessions" to President Donald Trump. He also says there will be no US troops in Ukraine if peace is reached.

            In an interview with NBC News, Vance said the Russians have "made significant concessions for the first time in three and a half years." This reportedly occurred when Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin met earlier this month in Alaska. "They are willing to be flexible on some of their key demands," Vance said.

            He said, among other things, that Moscow has recognized "that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war" and that it "cannot install a puppet government in Kyiv." "Have they made all the concessions? Of course not. But we are making progress," he added.

            Claiming regions

            Reuters reported Thursday, citing three Russian sources close to the Kremlin, that Moscow is prepared to freeze the front line in Zaporizhia and Kherson. These are regions the country claimed in June 2024. The Russians are also reportedly willing to withdraw from the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy, and Dnepropetrovsk.

            But Moscow is reportedly sticking to its demands that Ukraine relinquish the eastern Donbas region, abandon its ambition to join NATO, and keep Western troops out of the country. Russia is also reportedly unwilling to return the Crimean peninsula, annexed in 2014.

            Vance said today that Washington wants to offer Ukraine security guarantees, but he emphasized: "There will be no American troops in Ukraine."

            'Troops important'

            That is precisely what is important for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said today that he hopes the country will receive security guarantees from the United States and other Western allies if a deal is reached with Russia. Having troops present in the country, "or as they say, 'boots on the ground,' is important to us," Zelensky said.

            US envoy Keith Kellogg is currently in Ukraine. Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said during a meeting with him today in Kyiv that she had discussed security guarantees. "This is not just about military guarantees, but also about political stability and economic strength," she wrote on social media.

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            i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de
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            He must have meant "piece of Ukraine." The aggressors just want piece.

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              US Vice President J.D. Vance does not believe Moscow is obstructing a potential peace agreement in Ukraine, as Russia has made "significant concessions" to President Donald Trump. He also says there will be no US troops in Ukraine if peace is reached.

              In an interview with NBC News, Vance said the Russians have "made significant concessions for the first time in three and a half years." This reportedly occurred when Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin met earlier this month in Alaska. "They are willing to be flexible on some of their key demands," Vance said.

              He said, among other things, that Moscow has recognized "that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war" and that it "cannot install a puppet government in Kyiv." "Have they made all the concessions? Of course not. But we are making progress," he added.

              Claiming regions

              Reuters reported Thursday, citing three Russian sources close to the Kremlin, that Moscow is prepared to freeze the front line in Zaporizhia and Kherson. These are regions the country claimed in June 2024. The Russians are also reportedly willing to withdraw from the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy, and Dnepropetrovsk.

              But Moscow is reportedly sticking to its demands that Ukraine relinquish the eastern Donbas region, abandon its ambition to join NATO, and keep Western troops out of the country. Russia is also reportedly unwilling to return the Crimean peninsula, annexed in 2014.

              Vance said today that Washington wants to offer Ukraine security guarantees, but he emphasized: "There will be no American troops in Ukraine."

              'Troops important'

              That is precisely what is important for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said today that he hopes the country will receive security guarantees from the United States and other Western allies if a deal is reached with Russia. Having troops present in the country, "or as they say, 'boots on the ground,' is important to us," Zelensky said.

              US envoy Keith Kellogg is currently in Ukraine. Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said during a meeting with him today in Kyiv that she had discussed security guarantees. "This is not just about military guarantees, but also about political stability and economic strength," she wrote on social media.

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              linktank@lemmy.today
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              They're literally the aggressors??????????

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              • toastedravioli@midwest.socialT toastedravioli@midwest.social

                Why is the “translated source article”, which is already in English, completely different from the actual article itself? Other than maybe one pull quote, none of what is on the post is actually from the linked article

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                thepantser@sh.itjust.works
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                It's translated to AIglish

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                  US Vice President J.D. Vance does not believe Moscow is obstructing a potential peace agreement in Ukraine, as Russia has made "significant concessions" to President Donald Trump. He also says there will be no US troops in Ukraine if peace is reached.

                  In an interview with NBC News, Vance said the Russians have "made significant concessions for the first time in three and a half years." This reportedly occurred when Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin met earlier this month in Alaska. "They are willing to be flexible on some of their key demands," Vance said.

                  He said, among other things, that Moscow has recognized "that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war" and that it "cannot install a puppet government in Kyiv." "Have they made all the concessions? Of course not. But we are making progress," he added.

                  Claiming regions

                  Reuters reported Thursday, citing three Russian sources close to the Kremlin, that Moscow is prepared to freeze the front line in Zaporizhia and Kherson. These are regions the country claimed in June 2024. The Russians are also reportedly willing to withdraw from the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy, and Dnepropetrovsk.

                  But Moscow is reportedly sticking to its demands that Ukraine relinquish the eastern Donbas region, abandon its ambition to join NATO, and keep Western troops out of the country. Russia is also reportedly unwilling to return the Crimean peninsula, annexed in 2014.

                  Vance said today that Washington wants to offer Ukraine security guarantees, but he emphasized: "There will be no American troops in Ukraine."

                  'Troops important'

                  That is precisely what is important for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said today that he hopes the country will receive security guarantees from the United States and other Western allies if a deal is reached with Russia. Having troops present in the country, "or as they say, 'boots on the ground,' is important to us," Zelensky said.

                  US envoy Keith Kellogg is currently in Ukraine. Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said during a meeting with him today in Kyiv that she had discussed security guarantees. "This is not just about military guarantees, but also about political stability and economic strength," she wrote on social media.

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                  zonnewin@feddit.nl
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                  What a joker!

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                  • P puddinghelmet@lemmy.world

                    US Vice President J.D. Vance does not believe Moscow is obstructing a potential peace agreement in Ukraine, as Russia has made "significant concessions" to President Donald Trump. He also says there will be no US troops in Ukraine if peace is reached.

                    In an interview with NBC News, Vance said the Russians have "made significant concessions for the first time in three and a half years." This reportedly occurred when Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin met earlier this month in Alaska. "They are willing to be flexible on some of their key demands," Vance said.

                    He said, among other things, that Moscow has recognized "that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war" and that it "cannot install a puppet government in Kyiv." "Have they made all the concessions? Of course not. But we are making progress," he added.

                    Claiming regions

                    Reuters reported Thursday, citing three Russian sources close to the Kremlin, that Moscow is prepared to freeze the front line in Zaporizhia and Kherson. These are regions the country claimed in June 2024. The Russians are also reportedly willing to withdraw from the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy, and Dnepropetrovsk.

                    But Moscow is reportedly sticking to its demands that Ukraine relinquish the eastern Donbas region, abandon its ambition to join NATO, and keep Western troops out of the country. Russia is also reportedly unwilling to return the Crimean peninsula, annexed in 2014.

                    Vance said today that Washington wants to offer Ukraine security guarantees, but he emphasized: "There will be no American troops in Ukraine."

                    'Troops important'

                    That is precisely what is important for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said today that he hopes the country will receive security guarantees from the United States and other Western allies if a deal is reached with Russia. Having troops present in the country, "or as they say, 'boots on the ground,' is important to us," Zelensky said.

                    US envoy Keith Kellogg is currently in Ukraine. Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said during a meeting with him today in Kyiv that she had discussed security guarantees. "This is not just about military guarantees, but also about political stability and economic strength," she wrote on social media.

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                    hk65@sopuli.xyz
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                    I have a feeling that Vance is the pro-Russia voice in Trumpworld now. Trump is a weathervane, and Vance is a bit on the periphery looking in from Europe, since he never got to say anything while the EU/NATO people were there. We also know of his personal hatred toward Europe.

                    I sincerely hope the US doesn't elect him next.

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                      I have a feeling that Vance is the pro-Russia voice in Trumpworld now. Trump is a weathervane, and Vance is a bit on the periphery looking in from Europe, since he never got to say anything while the EU/NATO people were there. We also know of his personal hatred toward Europe.

                      I sincerely hope the US doesn't elect him next.

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                      ramble81@lemmy.zip
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                      “Elect” — small problem, if the bloated Cheeto bites the dust before the 2028 election, he becomes Couch-fucker-in-Chief automatically. Nothing we can do on our end.

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                      • P puddinghelmet@lemmy.world

                        US Vice President J.D. Vance does not believe Moscow is obstructing a potential peace agreement in Ukraine, as Russia has made "significant concessions" to President Donald Trump. He also says there will be no US troops in Ukraine if peace is reached.

                        In an interview with NBC News, Vance said the Russians have "made significant concessions for the first time in three and a half years." This reportedly occurred when Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin met earlier this month in Alaska. "They are willing to be flexible on some of their key demands," Vance said.

                        He said, among other things, that Moscow has recognized "that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war" and that it "cannot install a puppet government in Kyiv." "Have they made all the concessions? Of course not. But we are making progress," he added.

                        Claiming regions

                        Reuters reported Thursday, citing three Russian sources close to the Kremlin, that Moscow is prepared to freeze the front line in Zaporizhia and Kherson. These are regions the country claimed in June 2024. The Russians are also reportedly willing to withdraw from the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy, and Dnepropetrovsk.

                        But Moscow is reportedly sticking to its demands that Ukraine relinquish the eastern Donbas region, abandon its ambition to join NATO, and keep Western troops out of the country. Russia is also reportedly unwilling to return the Crimean peninsula, annexed in 2014.

                        Vance said today that Washington wants to offer Ukraine security guarantees, but he emphasized: "There will be no American troops in Ukraine."

                        'Troops important'

                        That is precisely what is important for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said today that he hopes the country will receive security guarantees from the United States and other Western allies if a deal is reached with Russia. Having troops present in the country, "or as they say, 'boots on the ground,' is important to us," Zelensky said.

                        US envoy Keith Kellogg is currently in Ukraine. Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko said during a meeting with him today in Kyiv that she had discussed security guarantees. "This is not just about military guarantees, but also about political stability and economic strength," she wrote on social media.

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                        tiger@sh.itjust.works
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                        I hate Vance so much, even more than Trump.

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                        • L linktank@lemmy.today

                          They're literally the aggressors??????????

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                          dicjacobus@lemmy.world
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                          Argument doesn't compute with these people. They believe in realpolotik and "realism"

                          Aka. Russia has nukes. So they get to do what they want. So does America

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