So who else is convinced the only possible decent future for yourself and your family is to leave the US?
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So who else is convinced the only possible decent future for yourself and your family is to leave the US? I hate myself for even being capable of considering that option, but really, what can I do to change the course of history? Can I change the course for my family?
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So who else is convinced the only possible decent future for yourself and your family is to leave the US? I hate myself for even being capable of considering that option, but really, what can I do to change the course of history? Can I change the course for my family?
My partner and I left the first chance we could. No regrets. In addition to our own personal safety (queer, trans, PoC, immigrant), life is just so much more enjoyable outside the US. Even if you disregard the Nazi takeover, the country is like 50 years behind any other developed nation. There's no public transit, there's no health care, education is dead, the food and water are slowly poisoning everyone, and half the country is violently opposed to behaving as a society.
I know it's not a realistic option for everyone but for anyone who might have the means but is on the fence about it, it's worth it. The other side really is greener. The easiest paths out are through work, education, or family
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My partner and I left the first chance we could. No regrets. In addition to our own personal safety (queer, trans, PoC, immigrant), life is just so much more enjoyable outside the US. Even if you disregard the Nazi takeover, the country is like 50 years behind any other developed nation. There's no public transit, there's no health care, education is dead, the food and water are slowly poisoning everyone, and half the country is violently opposed to behaving as a society.
I know it's not a realistic option for everyone but for anyone who might have the means but is on the fence about it, it's worth it. The other side really is greener. The easiest paths out are through work, education, or family
I’m trapped here dawg. No way out because I don’t have the family, nor education, nor job to get out. I’m going to fight in Civil War 2….I guess.
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My partner and I left the first chance we could. No regrets. In addition to our own personal safety (queer, trans, PoC, immigrant), life is just so much more enjoyable outside the US. Even if you disregard the Nazi takeover, the country is like 50 years behind any other developed nation. There's no public transit, there's no health care, education is dead, the food and water are slowly poisoning everyone, and half the country is violently opposed to behaving as a society.
I know it's not a realistic option for everyone but for anyone who might have the means but is on the fence about it, it's worth it. The other side really is greener. The easiest paths out are through work, education, or family
Thanks for the encouragement. I'm glad it's working out well for you. And you're right, regardless of the fascism going on right now, america is not a "developed" nation. It's 5 corporations in a trench coat shaking down the rest of us every single day and its been that way for quite a while. Got any tips or things you wish someone would have told you before you moved?
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Thanks for the encouragement. I'm glad it's working out well for you. And you're right, regardless of the fascism going on right now, america is not a "developed" nation. It's 5 corporations in a trench coat shaking down the rest of us every single day and its been that way for quite a while. Got any tips or things you wish someone would have told you before you moved?
Got any tips or things you wish someone would have told you before you moved?
Moving internationally is fucking difficult
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It helps to have a mailing address in the country, ideally one that isn't a PO Box. If you know someone, you might be able to use theirs, otherwise look at services like UPS.
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Get rid of as much as you can before moving. My partner and I went through everything we had and got rid of about half. Shipping is expensive. I also imported my car which was a whole bucket of bureaucracy.
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A storage unit is handy to have before you have an apartment
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If the place has universal health care as any developed nation should, you probably won't be able to get on it right away. You'll need insurance in the meantime. Thankfully insurance isn't always as bad of a scam as it is in the states.
You're basically reestablishing your life from scratch while slowly shutting down a past life. You'll need to transfer your finances over, shut down utilities, etc. The first 6 months after leaving are going to be difficult and you will be stressed out of your mind. Be kind to yourself.
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Got any tips or things you wish someone would have told you before you moved?
Moving internationally is fucking difficult
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It helps to have a mailing address in the country, ideally one that isn't a PO Box. If you know someone, you might be able to use theirs, otherwise look at services like UPS.
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Get rid of as much as you can before moving. My partner and I went through everything we had and got rid of about half. Shipping is expensive. I also imported my car which was a whole bucket of bureaucracy.
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A storage unit is handy to have before you have an apartment
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If the place has universal health care as any developed nation should, you probably won't be able to get on it right away. You'll need insurance in the meantime. Thankfully insurance isn't always as bad of a scam as it is in the states.
You're basically reestablishing your life from scratch while slowly shutting down a past life. You'll need to transfer your finances over, shut down utilities, etc. The first 6 months after leaving are going to be difficult and you will be stressed out of your mind. Be kind to yourself.
Thank you so much. I will keep these things in mind. I've never even left the country (due to the majority of my life being lived in poverty), so any tips help. My first step will be to actually visit the country I want to move to and to try to find some sort of advisor(?) in the new country who could guide me on things I could set up prior to moving.
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Thank you so much. I will keep these things in mind. I've never even left the country (due to the majority of my life being lived in poverty), so any tips help. My first step will be to actually visit the country I want to move to and to try to find some sort of advisor(?) in the new country who could guide me on things I could set up prior to moving.
Yes definitely take an exploratory trip first. It's common for border/immigration to ask if you had been there before anyways. Hit up some bars and try to make a friend or two
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So who else is convinced the only possible decent future for yourself and your family is to leave the US? I hate myself for even being capable of considering that option, but really, what can I do to change the course of history? Can I change the course for my family?
So often you hear the story about just the clothes on their backs and thats because that was where its at at that point. Until other countries recognized americans as refugees I don't many will be able to do this.
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I’m trapped here dawg. No way out because I don’t have the family, nor education, nor job to get out. I’m going to fight in Civil War 2….I guess.
I am slowly killing myself so I do not have to live through all this shit for any longer than I have to. Doctor says I should take statins for hardening arteries, but a heart attack sounds like the best option right now. This whole place is so fucked, and I am trapped here.
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I am slowly killing myself so I do not have to live through all this shit for any longer than I have to. Doctor says I should take statins for hardening arteries, but a heart attack sounds like the best option right now. This whole place is so fucked, and I am trapped here.
I get it
