The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.

[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they're masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.

At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.

The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.

This definitely shows a lot of perspective, thank you!

I really wish people looked at these cases more objectively, considering the humans involved and not simply:

"How can I paint this to forward my narrative obsession of the moment?"

It's like our entire society is based around social media clout farming. I know weaponized reporting is nothing new, but sheesh.

I wouldn't feel I had much choice either, if someone who just robbed a neighbor was charging at me in the dark. Suddenly after the fact, the internet is chock full of experts in ballistics and self defense law.

But you're right, it definitely defeated a future threat to the neighborhood residents. I haaaaate suburban Rambo Nextdoor toughguys as much as the next reasonable person, but this doesn't sound like that.

There's plenty of systemic issues to tackle around crime, but breaking into peoples' homes to loot and potentially harm them is always a choice carrying a significant weight of FAFO.

The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.

[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they're masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.

At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.

The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.

Journalistic reflex; cops are always innocent.

I'm from the area. It all depends on how white and Republican you are. They stack the Grand Juries with "respectable members" of the community (white, male business owners typically) who no-bill white folk for killing minorities.

In a very public case, a white small business owner/homeowner shot 2 unarmed minorities in the back, killing both as they fled a neighbor's house. They never stepped on the killer's property and never threatened anyone. The homeowner called 911 and said he was going to kill them and get away with it. The operator said not to shoot and to go inside because police were just seconds away, and he killed them anyway.

The grand jury refused to let the prosecutor take the case to trial because killing black people is a public benefit in their eyes.

So the families of the victims sued the killer, and the state responded by outlawwing civil suits over any case involving a firearm that didn't first include a felony conviction.

The shooter told 911 they were coming at him, after basically saying he wanted to go kill them. The police officer who witnessed the killing said they were fleeing and that he shot them in the back.

I'm not some anti-gun dude. I own over 50 guns and used to work in the industry.

But that motherfucker should be in jail. Non-violent criminals don't deserve the death penalty - least of all from some psycho neighbor who has a hard-on for violence and essentially announces his intent to kill before going outside and killing.

Saying non-violent burglars and drug users deserve to die because Joe really wanted an excuse to kill isn't exactly objective.

The only witness to the killing was a plainclothes officer who said he shot people in the back while fleeing.

Stealing shit isn't a capital offense. As a society, we decided long ago that even a judge and jury can't kill someone for burglary. Why is it okay when the psycho neighbor who isn't even a victim does it?

No. It applies to all civil suits regarding gun crime.

It effectively raises the standards of civil suits when guns are involved, which are not supposed to be the same as criminal.

In reality, if the masked intruder you shoot happens to be a cop, then Castle Doctrine is irrelevant. You're now a cop murderer. They'll figure out some legal or extra-legal way to see you behind bars or dead.

No details on the nationality of the homeowner? I wonder if they are Hispanic. I wouldn't be at all surprised if some MAGA zealots tried to play ICE and it turned out like this.

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The shooter told 911 they were coming at him, after basically saying he wanted to go kill them. The police officer who witnessed the killing said they were fleeing and that he shot them in the back.

I'm not some anti-gun dude. I own over 50 guns and used to work in the industry.

But that motherfucker should be in jail. Non-violent criminals don't deserve the death penalty - least of all from some psycho neighbor who has a hard-on for violence and essentially announces his intent to kill before going outside and killing.

They had been burglarizing the neighbor's empty house and were leaving.

That isn't worth killing over.

Saying non-violent burglars and drug users deserve to die because Joe really wanted an excuse to kill isn't exactly objective.

The only witness to the killing was a plainclothes officer who said he shot people in the back while fleeing.

Stealing shit isn't a capital offense. As a society, we decided long ago that even a judge and jury can't kill someone for burglary. Why is it okay when the psycho neighbor who isn't even a victim does it?

Good. If you aren't guilty, you shouldn't have any liability what-so-ever. if anything, once declared not-guilty (or the case never make it to court) any further pursuit of the victim should result in criminal harassment charges. Leave the victims alone, even if they are white.

This is actually why Texas is great and Joe Horn did nothing wrong. You can't trust the police, but I absolutely trust my neighbors.