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  • C cattywampas@midwest.social

    I mean, there are plenty of boring desk jobs in the military too.

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    bloomcole@lemmy.world
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    Yep, you can sit behind your screen and click on the wedding where the drone should strike.

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    • T theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      It would be better if they would kill the people making college tuition hard to get instead of killing people so their oppressors could gain even more power.

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      bloomcole@lemmy.world
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      That would take effort and risk.
      Bombing brown people from a distance is much easier.

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      • B bloomcole@lemmy.world

        The 'I joined bcs I needed an education' was the first excuse.
        This is the follow up.
        They have to rationalise it to themselves.
        As if there's any reason to justify joining the worst and most prolific killing machine on the planet.

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        outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        To be fair it's not the worst killing machine. Its nit like top 50% and itvus the most expensive, but it usually gets a pretty good amount of killing done.

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        • K klear@quokk.au

          *You would?

          (sorry)

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          kamenlady@lemmy.world
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          Or

          You will!

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          • O outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            To be fair it's not the worst killing machine. Its nit like top 50% and itvus the most expensive, but it usually gets a pretty good amount of killing done.

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            bloomcole@lemmy.world
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            What are you talking about?
            No country even comes close.

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            • B bloomcole@lemmy.world

              What are you talking about?
              No country even comes close.

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              outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              #17

              For pure numbers killed, i think russia wins. For efficiency per body dropped... When was the last time the Americans fully, like, won a war? Because it wasnt in my or my parents' lifetime.

              And they got their asses handed to them pretty badly by guys who didnt all have shoes a couple times since their last win.

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              • K klear@quokk.au

                *You would?

                (sorry)

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                callouscomic@lemmy.zip
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                I mean, it's not like we see our intellectual best come from the military. Most of them become fucking pigs and abusers.

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                  renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf
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                  Unless you're trans

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                  • O outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    For pure numbers killed, i think russia wins. For efficiency per body dropped... When was the last time the Americans fully, like, won a war? Because it wasnt in my or my parents' lifetime.

                    And they got their asses handed to them pretty badly by guys who didnt all have shoes a couple times since their last win.

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                    bloomcole@lemmy.world
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                    Russia hasn't got a death count near the US.
                    The US has lost everything after WW2, and there they played a small role despite the Hollywood fantasy depictions.
                    (I forgot the heroic victory against Grenada)

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                    • B bloomcole@lemmy.world

                      Yep, you can sit behind your screen and click on the wedding where the drone should strike.

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                      metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub
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                      Or the humanitarian missions delivering food or supplies sometimes. Most of the time it's sit around and look threatening enough that trade is protected. That's not really a defense, it's ultimately a tool protecting American capital and propping up a failing system, just saying that most of the expense doesn't go to murdering brown people.

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                      • M metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub

                        Or the humanitarian missions delivering food or supplies sometimes. Most of the time it's sit around and look threatening enough that trade is protected. That's not really a defense, it's ultimately a tool protecting American capital and propping up a failing system, just saying that most of the expense doesn't go to murdering brown people.

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                        bloomcole@lemmy.world
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                        Most of the time it’s sit around and look threatening enough that trade is protected.

                        What? where would that be?

                        And in no way that is protecting trade the biggest part of their horrible activities.
                        Unless it's drug trade like cocaine in the contra scandal or heroin from Afghanistan.

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                        • B bloomcole@lemmy.world

                          Russia hasn't got a death count near the US.
                          The US has lost everything after WW2, and there they played a small role despite the Hollywood fantasy depictions.
                          (I forgot the heroic victory against Grenada)

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                          outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          russia hasn't

                          Oh im counting deaths on voth sides.

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                          • O outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            russia hasn't

                            Oh im counting deaths on voth sides.

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                            bloomcole@lemmy.world
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                            Well they actually fought the nazis

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                            • B bloomcole@lemmy.world

                              Well they actually fought the nazis

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                              outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              The americans did too! They just, y'know, put their leadershio in charge of everything post-war.

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                              • R renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf

                                Unless you're trans

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                                underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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                                Surprising number of people come out as trans in the military. The fucking Airforce has a shocking number of them. It's a very strange place that has a curious way of cracking your egg, despite what would seem to be a host of disincentives.

                                Might have something to do with the way the military has become a magnet for the technically savvy and experimental, because they've got such enormous stockpiles of hardware and (ahem) armies of people needed to engineer and maintain it all. The military is overflowing with broke smart people, stashed all over the mechanics bays and flight decks and logistics offices of its sprawling bureaucracy.

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                                • M metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub

                                  Or the humanitarian missions delivering food or supplies sometimes. Most of the time it's sit around and look threatening enough that trade is protected. That's not really a defense, it's ultimately a tool protecting American capital and propping up a failing system, just saying that most of the expense doesn't go to murdering brown people.

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                                  underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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                                  Or the humanitarian missions delivering food or supplies sometimes.

                                  Former Green Beret Recounts Horrors at ‘Gaza Humanitarian Foundation’ Aid Sites

                                  😕

                                  We played this game in Afghanistan and Iraq as well. Not to mention Haiti, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, ... the list goes on. Great book on it that came out recently - The Fort Bragg Cartel - which initially revolved around US military officers trafficking Afghani heroin sold by the Northern Alliance back to the States under the cover of aid convoys and relief efforts. But it goes down a rabbit hole of cut-out organizations and black ops networks employed by the US for all sorts of sabotage, spying, and assassination work.

                                  Most famously, there was the fake CIA vaccination campaign that was used to hunt Osama bin Laden, and poisoned millions of people against the idea of western medical aid workers as benevolent agents.

                                  most of the expense doesn’t go to murdering brown people

                                  At its heart, every one of these campaigns is intended to facilitate the murder of foreign adversaries (most commonly, brown people - try not to dig too deeply into why). Whatever kindness they provide is only to facilitate some act of terror in the near or distant future.

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                                  • O outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    Was Adolf eichmann a murderer? He never pulled a trigger.

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                                    underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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                                    He never pulled a trigger.

                                    He joined the SS in 1932 and was tasked with event security for political rallies which routinely became violent. And then he rose through the ranks of an organization dedicated to covert violence very quickly. So, I wouldn't bank on that.

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                                    • O outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      The americans did too! They just, y'know, put their leadershio in charge of everything post-war.

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                                      bloomcole@lemmy.world
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                                      They only entered when it was certain the Soviets would win and get all of Europe.
                                      The allieds together only fought about 15% of the nazis, the rest was on the eastern front.
                                      They were there to save their nazi friends, help them escape or fight the Soviets.
                                      And yes the americans, vultures as they are, surely put their people in charge.
                                      And those people were nazis, fully rehabilitated .

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                                      • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

                                        He never pulled a trigger.

                                        He joined the SS in 1932 and was tasked with event security for political rallies which routinely became violent. And then he rose through the ranks of an organization dedicated to covert violence very quickly. So, I wouldn't bank on that.

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                                        outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        My point is that he killed, whether he was holding a gun or a pen; he caused people to die on purpose. He is a mudderer. I don't give a shit if he ever pulled a trigger, and deserved much worse than the hanging he got. As do his modern counterparts.

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                                          hikaru755@lemmy.world
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                                          Watching Total Forgiveness on dropout right now, this is very apropos lol

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