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  • I invertedspear@lemmy.zip

    Sales figures don’t support it. There is some demand, but not enough to redesign the platform to support 2-door. That’s a consequence of unibody design, 2 door is a completely different engineering from 4 door.

    2 door trucks are barely available for consumers these days, you practically have to get them off the fleet lots.

    Small electric trucks are coming. Slate is marketing like crazy to drive up demand. Telo is struggling to get to market. CAFE killed small gas trucks. That’s probably OK, electric is more suited for small trucks anyway, just need truck people to understand how much better electric is on small platforms vs 4cyl.

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    lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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    I'd buy a electric truck with a full bed and a single cab if they made one. There are no options that don't have stunted beds that I've seen.

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    • C callmeanai@lemmy.world

      Yep. But I'm not out hating people over it. I'd actually like to know.

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      bytemeister@lemmy.world
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      #102

      Yeah, because you're in a big truck, and not a sensibly sized car getting pinched between a brodozer and a concrete barrier everyday.

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      • I invertedspear@lemmy.zip

        Telo is also struggling to get to market and will be a much better choice than Slate if they make it. They’re not nearly as well funded though.

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        prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
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        #103

        The Telo is also quite a nice small size, but unfortunately double the MSRP, with the base model costing 41k. It's targeting a different market segment. The Slate's theoretical low cost is a big draw, despite it being less featured (that's actually what makes it appealing, IMO).

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        • I invertedspear@lemmy.zip

          I wish I’d never sold mine. It would still be running today if I had kept it.

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          jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
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          Same. Poor decision on my part. 🙁

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          • B bytemeister@lemmy.world

            Yeah, because you're in a big truck, and not a sensibly sized car getting pinched between a brodozer and a concrete barrier everyday.

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            callmeanai@lemmy.world
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            #105

            No I'm mostly in my Miata or my bike. Again, y'all just invent things.

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            • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

              Perfectly fair. You can have what you want. I just want to have what I want.🙂

              I'm trying to buy a compact on Autotrader and compacts are selling for more than low-end full size, so I think there's a demand.

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              callmeanai@lemmy.world
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              Sorry, not trying to argue with you too if that came off wrong!

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              • C callmeanai@lemmy.world

                No I'm mostly in my Miata or my bike. Again, y'all just invent things.

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                bytemeister@lemmy.world
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                #107

                Ah, so you wouldn't recommend that someone buy one of these things as a daily driver? You only have the truck for doing truck stuff, right?

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                • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                  In memory of my 95 extended cab

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                  baltakatei@sopuli.xyz
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                  #108

                  How else do you expect to fit two morbidly obese American parents and their morbidly obese children?

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                  • N nialv7@lemmy.world

                    hmmmm, this feels wrong, but off the top of my head i don't have many critics. but, like, what if the car makers just make very inefficient, but also very cheap cars? won't people buy that instead?

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                    chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                    Very inefficient cars would burn a ton of fuel and then consumers would be paying a fortune in fuel taxes.

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                    • C callmeanai@lemmy.world

                      Sorry, not trying to argue with you too if that came off wrong!

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                      opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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                      No worries! I'm not trying to do that either.

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                      • C chiliedogg@lemmy.world

                        2 things:

                        1. The new truck has 4 doors. That's a crew cab.
                        2. Part of the reason for today's massive trucks is a change in CAFE regs starting in 2012 that bases fuel economy standards on vehicle footprint. It's easier to make a larger footprint than a more efficient vehicle.
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                        chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                        When a measure becomes a target it ceases to be a good measure.

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                        • S shane_mcgoomy@lemmy.world

                          I really want a Kei Truck, and I can't be the only one.

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                          opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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                          OMG, there are two people in my neighborhood with them and I want one soooo bad. Only problem is I need to haul stuff to the landfill and that requires getting on the interstate which I don't think they're rated for in my state.

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                          • machinist@lemmy.worldM machinist@lemmy.world

                            This is actually my fourth vehicle, lifetime. My second was a 97 ranger with the 5 speed and 4 banger. I sold it and missed it so bad I got this one after I lost the car in a flood.

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                            opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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                            I live in Worst Carolina, and I know the feeling when you can just say you lost something in "the flood" and people just nod their heads like, "yep, I know".

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                            • 0 0x0@lemmy.zip

                              And more children die nowadays for the sake of... what? Small egos?

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                              jcbazpx@lemmy.world
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                              For the sake of bigger profits.

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                              • machinist@lemmy.worldM machinist@lemmy.world

                                Yup. I have a play farm, not a real farm. Real farming is an industrial process that requires duallys and such. However, those are also real trucks. Beat to shit, tools in the bed, not lifted so much you can't load them, etc. They look the part. I do also have a 98 Chevy 3500 box truck. Drinks way too much gas to use it for anything other than its purpose, don't even have it registered right now, bad cats.

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                                redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                I know some play farmers with dualies. One is for building a fence, one is for towing a 5th wheel and a toy hauler. The fence builder is similarly unregistered because it's "expensive enough to maintain"

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                                • B brenstar@programming.dev

                                  I needed a new vehicle this year and knew I wanted a small truck to help with my forever ongoing home renovation needs. A Ranger was definitely what I was targeting before ultimately falling in love with an 88 Jeep Comanche long bed. Perfect size truck that looks Comically small when parked next to any modern day truck

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                                  opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                  They're a vanishing breed. I was searching Autotrader for a compact pickup, and the only thing I found was a Mazda B2300 ... from 1986. I can't use that - I'd be too worried about damaging it. It's a collector's item.

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                                  • B bytemeister@lemmy.world

                                    Ah, so you wouldn't recommend that someone buy one of these things as a daily driver? You only have the truck for doing truck stuff, right?

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                                    callmeanai@lemmy.world
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                                    I have a 4 car garage, money to buy multiple used vehicles, and fix them up myself. Not many are so privileged.

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                                    • N neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      I got an 87 F150 that hauls trash and kayaks... what's my status?

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                                      5in1k@lemmy.zip
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                                      My 08 hauls so many kayaks and has enabled so many cool adventures.

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                                      • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                                        In memory of my 95 extended cab

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                                        darkfuture@lemmy.world
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                                        Yeah I really don't get it.

                                        I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

                                        I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

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                                        • A al_kaholic@lemmynsfw.com

                                          If only there was another way to acquire a vehicle created with the intention of moving large items. That way You-haul it for way less then owning maintaining and the price difference in gas. They should also make these available at every big box home improvement store. The cyber truck was created for you have a nice day.

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                                          5in1k@lemmy.zip
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                                          It’ll never be cheaper for me to own a car and rent a truck every other weekend and two 10 day weeks a year for my vacations than owning my truck. I’m not hauling kayaks and bikes and stuff in a car. I’ve done it, no. Go drive to the UP in a Home Depot rental truck. Yah ok boss.

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