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  • C callmeanai@lemmy.world

    Sorry, not trying to argue with you too if that came off wrong!

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    opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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    No worries! I'm not trying to do that either.

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    • C chiliedogg@lemmy.world

      2 things:

      1. The new truck has 4 doors. That's a crew cab.
      2. Part of the reason for today's massive trucks is a change in CAFE regs starting in 2012 that bases fuel economy standards on vehicle footprint. It's easier to make a larger footprint than a more efficient vehicle.
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      chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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      When a measure becomes a target it ceases to be a good measure.

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      • S shane_mcgoomy@lemmy.world

        I really want a Kei Truck, and I can't be the only one.

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        opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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        OMG, there are two people in my neighborhood with them and I want one soooo bad. Only problem is I need to haul stuff to the landfill and that requires getting on the interstate which I don't think they're rated for in my state.

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        • machinist@lemmy.worldM machinist@lemmy.world

          This is actually my fourth vehicle, lifetime. My second was a 97 ranger with the 5 speed and 4 banger. I sold it and missed it so bad I got this one after I lost the car in a flood.

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          opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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          I live in Worst Carolina, and I know the feeling when you can just say you lost something in "the flood" and people just nod their heads like, "yep, I know".

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          • 0 0x0@lemmy.zip

            And more children die nowadays for the sake of... what? Small egos?

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            jcbazpx@lemmy.world
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            For the sake of bigger profits.

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            • machinist@lemmy.worldM machinist@lemmy.world

              Yup. I have a play farm, not a real farm. Real farming is an industrial process that requires duallys and such. However, those are also real trucks. Beat to shit, tools in the bed, not lifted so much you can't load them, etc. They look the part. I do also have a 98 Chevy 3500 box truck. Drinks way too much gas to use it for anything other than its purpose, don't even have it registered right now, bad cats.

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              redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              I know some play farmers with dualies. One is for building a fence, one is for towing a 5th wheel and a toy hauler. The fence builder is similarly unregistered because it's "expensive enough to maintain"

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              • B brenstar@programming.dev

                I needed a new vehicle this year and knew I wanted a small truck to help with my forever ongoing home renovation needs. A Ranger was definitely what I was targeting before ultimately falling in love with an 88 Jeep Comanche long bed. Perfect size truck that looks Comically small when parked next to any modern day truck

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                opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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                They're a vanishing breed. I was searching Autotrader for a compact pickup, and the only thing I found was a Mazda B2300 ... from 1986. I can't use that - I'd be too worried about damaging it. It's a collector's item.

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                • B bytemeister@lemmy.world

                  Ah, so you wouldn't recommend that someone buy one of these things as a daily driver? You only have the truck for doing truck stuff, right?

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                  callmeanai@lemmy.world
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                  I have a 4 car garage, money to buy multiple used vehicles, and fix them up myself. Not many are so privileged.

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                  • N neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    I got an 87 F150 that hauls trash and kayaks... what's my status?

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                    5in1k@lemmy.zip
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                    My 08 hauls so many kayaks and has enabled so many cool adventures.

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                    • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                      In memory of my 95 extended cab

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                      darkfuture@lemmy.world
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                      Yeah I really don't get it.

                      I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

                      I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

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                      • A al_kaholic@lemmynsfw.com

                        If only there was another way to acquire a vehicle created with the intention of moving large items. That way You-haul it for way less then owning maintaining and the price difference in gas. They should also make these available at every big box home improvement store. The cyber truck was created for you have a nice day.

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                        5in1k@lemmy.zip
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                        It’ll never be cheaper for me to own a car and rent a truck every other weekend and two 10 day weeks a year for my vacations than owning my truck. I’m not hauling kayaks and bikes and stuff in a car. I’ve done it, no. Go drive to the UP in a Home Depot rental truck. Yah ok boss.

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                        • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

                          Very inefficient cars would burn a ton of fuel and then consumers would be paying a fortune in fuel taxes.

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                          nialv7@lemmy.world
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                          Depends on how high you make the tax, lower priced car might offset that.

                          And gas tax also disproportionately affect the poorer population, for many of them cars are mandatory because of commuting, etc. And those who are well-off might just not care about the tax.

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                          • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD darkfuture@lemmy.world

                            Yeah I really don't get it.

                            I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

                            I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

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                            opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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                            Is your username a reference to the Greydon Clark movie?

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                            • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD darkfuture@lemmy.world

                              Yeah I really don't get it.

                              I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

                              I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

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                              chuckleslord@lemmy.world
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                              When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

                              So... either you'll be buying used or not a truck.

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                              • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD darkfuture@lemmy.world

                                Yeah I really don't get it.

                                I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

                                I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

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                                lepoisson@lemmy.world
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                                It's because they're emotional support vehicles for suburban dudes who have an incredibly fragile ego. What they need is a van or a "sensible" SUV or even just y'know a fuckin car but these men are too sensitive and scared to drive one of those so they buy a truck as a family car instead.

                                It's kind of pathetic honestly.

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                                • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                                  In memory of my 95 extended cab

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                                  stupidcasey@lemmy.world
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                                  Back then I was told the extended beds suck because they had more leverage and the frame was more likely to snap with a real load and you should use a gooseneck trailer anyways

                                  No Idea how true this is but Hay if the extra length is harmful anyways then might as well shrink it more.

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                                  • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                                    In memory of my 95 extended cab

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                                    captpretentious@lemmy.world
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                                    So today's 'trucks' have just slightly more storage space than my old Mini Cooper did. Neat. Like can you legit fit like a bike or 4-wheeler in that?

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                                    • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                                      They're a vanishing breed. I was searching Autotrader for a compact pickup, and the only thing I found was a Mazda B2300 ... from 1986. I can't use that - I'd be too worried about damaging it. It's a collector's item.

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                                      brenstar@programming.dev
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                                      I definitely feel that! I bought it knowing that I will have to do all my own maintenance and repairs, which is terrifying but doable. I had to promise myself that if it ever gets wrecked, I’ll have to restore it at any cost, because there simply aren’t that many left out there.

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                                      • N nialv7@lemmy.world

                                        Depends on how high you make the tax, lower priced car might offset that.

                                        And gas tax also disproportionately affect the poorer population, for many of them cars are mandatory because of commuting, etc. And those who are well-off might just not care about the tax.

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                                        chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                                        That’s the case with all Pigouvian taxes.

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                                        • B bromswolligans@lemmy.world

                                          I think you know what I meant. Most people who need a truck need a truck like mine. Obviously most people don't need a truck. I only have one because the last few years have required a lot of work on my house and yard. Whenever all that wraps up I'll swap it back out for another car.

                                          People toss out the "you just need a buddy with a truck" or "you just need to rent one" thing so much but those things require you to bend your life around, say, inconveniencing people to borrow / hoping their schedule accommodates, or, having to go collect, use, pay for, and return during a narrow window of time a rented truck, which, yes, is fine for one day, but if again, you've got years of unpredictable needs ahead of you, it's not a sin to buy a cheap, well-used truck as a second or third vehicle so you've always got it when you need it. And in that case, those "most people" need a truck like mine_.

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                                          outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Im not saying you don't. If your main hobby/job is construction/rennovation; it makes sense. That's pretty rare.

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