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What do you use for music library streaming?

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  • R remon@ani.social

    So you only listen to music on one device? If not, do you swap the SD card between devices all the time or do you have a separate SD card for all devices? How do you keep them in sync, transfer playlists, etc? What if you have more than 2TB?

    Yeah, go local as in: Run your own media server and stream from that.

    But only keeping music files on the end device is a step in the wrong direction.

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    #43

    i listen on two devices: my phone and my PC.

    depends on ppl's use cases. a home media server is over-engineered solution for me, and perhaps others. but it's good to stop for second and consider what one's needs actually are.

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    • nico_198x@europe.pubN nico_198x@europe.pub

      SD Card on my phone. i don't stream it anymore. storage is so cheap now i can easily hold all of my flac files, no problem.

      edit don't look for solutions to problems you don't have. most ppl don't NEED to stream everything over the internet.

      go back to local.

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      medicpigbabysaver@lemmy.world
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      Indeed. My collection is on my phone's memory, my old phone "music player", and just a back up SD card in my laptop.

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      • K kerobaros@lemmy.world

        beets for library organization, gonic for serving, Tempo for consuming

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        eodur@lemmy.world
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        I too like Tempo, but I use Navidrome as the backend.

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        • U unphazed@lemmy.world

          The only reason I still have a s20fe. The last of the sd card phones... sigh

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          ppl will find a way. i'm on a Mudita Kompakt. XD

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          • nico_198x@europe.pubN nico_198x@europe.pub

            i listen on two devices: my phone and my PC.

            depends on ppl's use cases. a home media server is over-engineered solution for me, and perhaps others. but it's good to stop for second and consider what one's needs actually are.

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            remon@ani.social
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            #47

            Right, but considering that OP is already running a media server and also is looking for a way to curated his library, I don't see how switching to on-device storage would be anything but a downgrade.

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            • R remon@ani.social

              Right, but considering that OP is already running a media server and also is looking for a way to curated his library, I don't see how switching to on-device storage would be anything but a downgrade.

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              nico_198x@europe.pub
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              up to OP. i read it as "i wanted to go all in on Jellyfin, but it's been a PITA. what else would you suggest?"

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              • U unphazed@lemmy.world

                The only reason I still have a s20fe. The last of the sd card phones... sigh

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                slamphear@lemmy.world
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                #49

                I’m currently waiting for my Fairphone 6 to arrive, but I believe the sim tray includes a spot for an SD card. I was also recently using a Furi Labs FLX1, which also had an SD card slot. There are other options out there. 😊

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                • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

                  I was hoping to go all in with Jellyfin, but it's been absolutely maddening to try to get it to play nice with my curated library. It just makes too many dumb assumptions about artist metadata.

                  Any other suggestions?

                  EDIT: I installed Navidrome, then poured over the documentation for the config file and micromanaged every setting. This has allowed me to get damn near close to the exact unobtrusive behavior I had hoped for.

                  EDIT 2: AFA mobile client goes, I'd absolutely consider paying for Symphonium, if it didn't seem to require my having a Google Play account (fuck that). So instead I'm trying Tempo.

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                  spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world
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                  1TB SD card on my phone.

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                  • H hitekrednek@lemmy.world

                    I use navidrome. And what's nice about it is, there are 3 people in my household, they can all access that. We all have our own favorite tracks saved in our preferred player, and we can still save a good chunk of them to our phones.

                    In my case, I have a random mood playlist of 200 tracks that gets updated every morning before I wake up, my phone app caches all 200 of them, so I can play them without network access.

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                    sidewayshighways@lemmy.world
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                    how does this work for you? i was on gonic but moved back to navidrome to allow for mopidy to let home assistant trigger playlists directly (with the mpd integration)

                    but i haven't figured out the smart playlists yet

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                    • nico_198x@europe.pubN nico_198x@europe.pub

                      up to OP. i read it as "i wanted to go all in on Jellyfin, but it's been a PITA. what else would you suggest?"

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                      onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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                      Yes... Which is OP is already using a streaming solution, clearly that's the chosen direction.

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                      • O onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe

                        Yes... Which is OP is already using a streaming solution, clearly that's the chosen direction.

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                        mate... ppl can change their minds. i did.

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                        • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG gedaliyah@lemmy.world

                          I did this for a while, and only switched back to Jellyfin/Finamp while degoogling (needed for paid version). I thought it was definitely worth it while I was using it. I also listen to music on the TV and Jellyfin handles it better than other options I tried (including side-loading symfonium).

                          I currently use a separate music library manager on my server to organize my music collection, then Jellyfin just does the server work.

                          I think you'll be very happy with the setup you are using.

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                          curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          Personally I just run both.

                          Navidrome is what I would call the daily driver, but since its just a share that JF can also see, for TV playback its JF just like you.

                          But I'm also a stickler for metadata so I don't often run into issues. When I do see something come up thats not right, I correct manually. Which wasn't happening very often until lidarr had the metadata issue with musicbrainz, though the past few months its been a manual effort.

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                          • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

                            Thank you for the info. I might try this, however I'm already having a 10x better experience now that I've set up Navidrome, and then tried the Symphonium client.

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                            jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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                            You can use Symphonium with JF libraries as well.

                            I almost set up Navidrome but I have TVs and Movies on JF already

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                            • nico_198x@europe.pubN nico_198x@europe.pub

                              SD Card on my phone. i don't stream it anymore. storage is so cheap now i can easily hold all of my flac files, no problem.

                              edit don't look for solutions to problems you don't have. most ppl don't NEED to stream everything over the internet.

                              go back to local.

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                              wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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                              #56

                              I use a DAP with an SD card on the go, because my whole collection is lossless and I like fidelity. However, it's convenient to be able to stream music to my TV while doing house chores, in addition to allowing family access.

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                              • S sidewayshighways@lemmy.world

                                how does this work for you? i was on gonic but moved back to navidrome to allow for mopidy to let home assistant trigger playlists directly (with the mpd integration)

                                but i haven't figured out the smart playlists yet

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                                hitekrednek@lemmy.world
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                                I have a few smart playlists set up that are each various genres of music. It's not perfect, but it works well enough.

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                                • M ms_lane@lemmy.world

                                  Mstream - it's the lightest and simplest of streaming servers.

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                                  zingo@sh.itjust.works
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                                  LMS is also pretty damn light as well.
                                  Uses about 19 MB of RAM on my system on idle.

                                  Lightweight Music Server

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                                  • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

                                    I use a DAP with an SD card on the go, because my whole collection is lossless and I like fidelity. However, it's convenient to be able to stream music to my TV while doing house chores, in addition to allowing family access.

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                                    nico_198x@europe.pub
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                                    the family bit is key i think for needing a home server. some TVs you can do via BT to the phone.

                                    but if you're setting it up anyway for your family, then yeah, best to organize around the server.

                                    good luck to you!

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                                    • S spicehoarder@lemmy.zip

                                      Tailscail + Symfonium 💜

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                                      wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                      Tailscale is the way. You can make their free tier go really far, especially if you use your own OIDC solution.

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                                      • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

                                        I was hoping to go all in with Jellyfin, but it's been absolutely maddening to try to get it to play nice with my curated library. It just makes too many dumb assumptions about artist metadata.

                                        Any other suggestions?

                                        EDIT: I installed Navidrome, then poured over the documentation for the config file and micromanaged every setting. This has allowed me to get damn near close to the exact unobtrusive behavior I had hoped for.

                                        EDIT 2: AFA mobile client goes, I'd absolutely consider paying for Symphonium, if it didn't seem to require my having a Google Play account (fuck that). So instead I'm trying Tempo.

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                                        nfreak@lemmy.ml
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                                        #61

                                        I'm in the middle of writing up a novel about my music stack since I've just about gotten it exactly where I want it. There's no one-size-fits-all answer here and it's difficult to really replicate the behavior of major streaming services.

                                        The short version of what I have set up:

                                        • Backend: Navidrome

                                        • Frontends: Feishin (both desktop and hosted) and Symfonium

                                        • Remote access: Pangolin (this does involve keeping a Navidrome rest endpoint totally exposed so Tailscale/Netbird/Wireguard are fine too, but I wanted to be sure my wife can access it from her work PC in the office)

                                        • Library and metadata management: Lidarr, beets, and metadata-remote. Lidarr does the bulk (one instance per user/library), beets handles manual imports, and MDRM is for fine-tuning and really obscure stuff

                                        • Searching/Downloading: Lidarr + Tubifarry + slskd. Also support smaller artists as much as possible, bandcamp purchases and merch and whatever go a long way.

                                        • Discovery: Explo

                                        I'll have a full beginning to end writeup pretty soon hopefully. It's still not perfect, and juggling multiple users adds a huge layer of complexity, but I'm happy with where it's at.

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                                        • roofuskit@lemmy.worldR roofuskit@lemmy.world

                                          There really isn't any decent alternative. I can run 4 Navidrome servers along side each other using less resources than a single copy of the alternatives. It just works and does almost everything you could want.

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                                          nfreak@lemmy.ml
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                                          Navidrome even supports multiple libraries now. I was using 2 instances for a bit for my wife and I, but now it's all in one.

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