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  • J justjack23@slrpnk.net

    Understandable, AI marketing now is a shitshot, but they are not even AI I think. Just people forget that tech used to do magic before AI existed.

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    lwl@lemmy.world
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    #29

    It's kind of the other way around, we've always had AI, it used to just basically mean a computer making some decision based on data. Like a thermostat changing the heating in response to a temperature change.

    Then we got LLMs and because they are good at pretending to have complex reasoning ability, AI as a term started to always mean "computer with near human level intelligence" which of course they are absolutely not.

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    • B baked86@lemmy.world

      Probably self diagnosed with whatever cool disorder is hot right now

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      princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      #30

      How is this related to what you're replying too? Just seems ableist. Like the other person said, the TikTok-er says they have ADHD. I totally get why the instant gratification of AI could be nice with ADHD, that's why I avoid it at all costs.

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      • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

        Subtitles is a perfect use case for LLMs.

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        princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        #31

        Automatic subtitles like on YouTube use Machine Learning, NOT a Large Language Model.

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        • Z ziglin@lemmy.world

          How would an llm fix a mistake equivalent to something being misheard? I feel like you're misunderstanding something and could probably also use some help with your English.

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          princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          #32

          [...]could probably also use some help with your English.

          what the actual fluff is up with lemmy.world accounts in this thread acting like jerks?

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          • L lwl@lemmy.world

            It's kind of the other way around, we've always had AI, it used to just basically mean a computer making some decision based on data. Like a thermostat changing the heating in response to a temperature change.

            Then we got LLMs and because they are good at pretending to have complex reasoning ability, AI as a term started to always mean "computer with near human level intelligence" which of course they are absolutely not.

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            justjack23@slrpnk.net
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            #33

            There was a book I can't remember, the whole thesis was exactly that. "AI is whatever automates the decision making process" not any group of algos

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            • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

              I have to disagree with you. Ai is never a more accurate way to describe what we have now. Not until they call true ai something different.

              I know its a weird hill to die on, but die on it I will. Calling one artifical intelligence and one virtual intelligence could work.

              Also it's my understanding that LLMs are considered a type of neural net so I don't see it being more accurate to call it a neural net vs a llm.

              And they are all subsets of machine learning so calling it an ml model leads me back to the same issue I have with "ai". (And the same reason those loser usb fucks can suck a bag of dildos) lack of clairty of what it actually can do.

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              princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              #34

              Then call it ML or a neural net. Using the term LLM like you are for other forms of machine learning is just going to cause needless confusion, like it has in this thread.

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              • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                [...]could probably also use some help with your English.

                what the actual fluff is up with lemmy.world accounts in this thread acting like jerks?

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                0x2640@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                #35

                lemmy.world accounts acting like jerks

                many such cases

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                • S spujb@lemmy.cafe

                  edit to clarify a misconception in the comments, this is an instagram post so “caption” refers to the description under the image or video

                  as an example, this text i am typing now is also a “caption”

                  just saying because someone started a debate misunderstanding this to be about subtitles (aka “closed captions”) and that’s just not the case 👍

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                  meaanbeaan@lemmy.world
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                  #36

                  If you're capable enough to bitch about being too disabled to use your brain. You're capable enough to write your own caption.

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                  • Z ziglin@lemmy.world

                    How would an llm fix a mistake equivalent to something being misheard? I feel like you're misunderstanding something and could probably also use some help with your English.

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                    badjojo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    #37

                    Be nice (Rule 2).

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                    • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                      Automatic subtitles like on YouTube use Machine Learning, NOT a Large Language Model.

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                      thejoker954@lemmy.world
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                      #38

                      I used youtube only as a basic comparison as thats the one everybody has some experience with.

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                      • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                        Then call it ML or a neural net. Using the term LLM like you are for other forms of machine learning is just going to cause needless confusion, like it has in this thread.

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                        thejoker954@lemmy.world
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                        #39

                        No. "Machine learning" is the root of the tree.

                        Or to steal another commenters attempts to have me call it that - that would be like calling a chihuahu a wolf.

                        Machine learning -> neural net -> LLM. Thats the basic "path". I dont CARE if LLM is technically wrong when using machine learning or neural net is also inaccurate.

                        If anything yall should be arguing for me to call it ASR 2.0

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                        • badjojo@lemmy.blahaj.zoneB badjojo@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                          Be nice (Rule 2).

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                          ziglin@lemmy.world
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                          #40

                          Yeah, fair enough. I really did a bad job pointing that out politely.

                          In hindsight, trying to fix it I think I was trying to connect two thoughts I had about the other comment in a way that was not discernible in any way by anyone other than me.

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                          • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

                            No. "Machine learning" is the root of the tree.

                            Or to steal another commenters attempts to have me call it that - that would be like calling a chihuahu a wolf.

                            Machine learning -> neural net -> LLM. Thats the basic "path". I dont CARE if LLM is technically wrong when using machine learning or neural net is also inaccurate.

                            If anything yall should be arguing for me to call it ASR 2.0

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                            princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            #41

                            I just use ML to describe everything that isn't overhyped "AI" instead of making a big deal out of it but to each their own ig

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                            • S spujb@lemmy.cafe

                              to clarify we are talking about a post caption, not closed captions.

                              that is, the text you put in the description of an image or video post.

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                              thejoker954@lemmy.world
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                              #42

                              Thanks for the clarification. Lol kinda feeds into my whole let's call things more accurately debate.

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