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  • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

    I have to disagree with you. Ai is never a more accurate way to describe what we have now. Not until they call true ai something different.

    I know its a weird hill to die on, but die on it I will. Calling one artifical intelligence and one virtual intelligence could work.

    Also it's my understanding that LLMs are considered a type of neural net so I don't see it being more accurate to call it a neural net vs a llm.

    And they are all subsets of machine learning so calling it an ml model leads me back to the same issue I have with "ai". (And the same reason those loser usb fucks can suck a bag of dildos) lack of clairty of what it actually can do.

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    mummyslittlebloodslut@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    You need to spend less time watching movies and more time watching computer science lectures. We had AI back in the 1960s.

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    • T turret3857@infosec.pub

      It definitely is. As someone who actually struggles with severe ADHD this comment makes my piss boil.

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      natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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      I second that, this person is actually just lazy. I got ADHD and I always add fucking alt text, it's part of the normal post routine no matter if I took my meds or not. And it's not like you can't edit it into posts if you clicked send too quickly.

      I'd even argue it makes your social media experience better. Forces awareness to what you do, gives you time to reflect on your post.

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      • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

        Subtitles is a perfect use case for LLMs.

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        natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Fuck no.

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        • natanox@discuss.tchncs.deN natanox@discuss.tchncs.de

          I second that, this person is actually just lazy. I got ADHD and I always add fucking alt text, it's part of the normal post routine no matter if I took my meds or not. And it's not like you can't edit it into posts if you clicked send too quickly.

          I'd even argue it makes your social media experience better. Forces awareness to what you do, gives you time to reflect on your post.

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          una@europe.pub
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          There was someone on tiktok defending AI "art", who says that he has ADHD and how it is hard for him to concentrate on art and how AI makes his life "easier" by allowing him to feel like he did something, don't remember exactly but it was something like that. But he also forgot how many disabled people there are, with different disabilities, and still be able to make like perfect art. He also mentioned how he wasn't born with talent, not like talent doesn't really exist.

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          • una@europe.pubU una@europe.pub

            There was someone on tiktok defending AI "art", who says that he has ADHD and how it is hard for him to concentrate on art and how AI makes his life "easier" by allowing him to feel like he did something, don't remember exactly but it was something like that. But he also forgot how many disabled people there are, with different disabilities, and still be able to make like perfect art. He also mentioned how he wasn't born with talent, not like talent doesn't really exist.

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            baked86@lemmy.world
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            Probably self diagnosed with whatever cool disorder is hot right now

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            • J justjack23@slrpnk.net

              Understandable, AI marketing now is a shitshot, but they are not even AI I think. Just people forget that tech used to do magic before AI existed.

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              lwl@lemmy.world
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              It's kind of the other way around, we've always had AI, it used to just basically mean a computer making some decision based on data. Like a thermostat changing the heating in response to a temperature change.

              Then we got LLMs and because they are good at pretending to have complex reasoning ability, AI as a term started to always mean "computer with near human level intelligence" which of course they are absolutely not.

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              • B baked86@lemmy.world

                Probably self diagnosed with whatever cool disorder is hot right now

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                princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                How is this related to what you're replying too? Just seems ableist. Like the other person said, the TikTok-er says they have ADHD. I totally get why the instant gratification of AI could be nice with ADHD, that's why I avoid it at all costs.

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                • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

                  Subtitles is a perfect use case for LLMs.

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                  princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  Automatic subtitles like on YouTube use Machine Learning, NOT a Large Language Model.

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                  • Z ziglin@lemmy.world

                    How would an llm fix a mistake equivalent to something being misheard? I feel like you're misunderstanding something and could probably also use some help with your English.

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                    princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    #32

                    [...]could probably also use some help with your English.

                    what the actual fluff is up with lemmy.world accounts in this thread acting like jerks?

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                    • L lwl@lemmy.world

                      It's kind of the other way around, we've always had AI, it used to just basically mean a computer making some decision based on data. Like a thermostat changing the heating in response to a temperature change.

                      Then we got LLMs and because they are good at pretending to have complex reasoning ability, AI as a term started to always mean "computer with near human level intelligence" which of course they are absolutely not.

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                      justjack23@slrpnk.net
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                      There was a book I can't remember, the whole thesis was exactly that. "AI is whatever automates the decision making process" not any group of algos

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                      • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

                        I have to disagree with you. Ai is never a more accurate way to describe what we have now. Not until they call true ai something different.

                        I know its a weird hill to die on, but die on it I will. Calling one artifical intelligence and one virtual intelligence could work.

                        Also it's my understanding that LLMs are considered a type of neural net so I don't see it being more accurate to call it a neural net vs a llm.

                        And they are all subsets of machine learning so calling it an ml model leads me back to the same issue I have with "ai". (And the same reason those loser usb fucks can suck a bag of dildos) lack of clairty of what it actually can do.

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                        princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                        Then call it ML or a neural net. Using the term LLM like you are for other forms of machine learning is just going to cause needless confusion, like it has in this thread.

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                        • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                          [...]could probably also use some help with your English.

                          what the actual fluff is up with lemmy.world accounts in this thread acting like jerks?

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                          0x2640@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          lemmy.world accounts acting like jerks

                          many such cases

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                          • S spujb@lemmy.cafe

                            edit to clarify a misconception in the comments, this is an instagram post so “caption” refers to the description under the image or video

                            as an example, this text i am typing now is also a “caption”

                            just saying because someone started a debate misunderstanding this to be about subtitles (aka “closed captions”) and that’s just not the case 👍

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                            meaanbeaan@lemmy.world
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                            If you're capable enough to bitch about being too disabled to use your brain. You're capable enough to write your own caption.

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                            • Z ziglin@lemmy.world

                              How would an llm fix a mistake equivalent to something being misheard? I feel like you're misunderstanding something and could probably also use some help with your English.

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                              badjojo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              #37

                              Be nice (Rule 2).

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                              • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                Automatic subtitles like on YouTube use Machine Learning, NOT a Large Language Model.

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                                thejoker954@lemmy.world
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                                I used youtube only as a basic comparison as thats the one everybody has some experience with.

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                                • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                  Then call it ML or a neural net. Using the term LLM like you are for other forms of machine learning is just going to cause needless confusion, like it has in this thread.

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                                  thejoker954@lemmy.world
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                                  No. "Machine learning" is the root of the tree.

                                  Or to steal another commenters attempts to have me call it that - that would be like calling a chihuahu a wolf.

                                  Machine learning -> neural net -> LLM. Thats the basic "path". I dont CARE if LLM is technically wrong when using machine learning or neural net is also inaccurate.

                                  If anything yall should be arguing for me to call it ASR 2.0

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                                    Be nice (Rule 2).

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                                    ziglin@lemmy.world
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                                    #40

                                    Yeah, fair enough. I really did a bad job pointing that out politely.

                                    In hindsight, trying to fix it I think I was trying to connect two thoughts I had about the other comment in a way that was not discernible in any way by anyone other than me.

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                                    • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

                                      No. "Machine learning" is the root of the tree.

                                      Or to steal another commenters attempts to have me call it that - that would be like calling a chihuahu a wolf.

                                      Machine learning -> neural net -> LLM. Thats the basic "path". I dont CARE if LLM is technically wrong when using machine learning or neural net is also inaccurate.

                                      If anything yall should be arguing for me to call it ASR 2.0

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                                      princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                      I just use ML to describe everything that isn't overhyped "AI" instead of making a big deal out of it but to each their own ig

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                                      • S spujb@lemmy.cafe

                                        to clarify we are talking about a post caption, not closed captions.

                                        that is, the text you put in the description of an image or video post.

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                                        thejoker954@lemmy.world
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                                        Thanks for the clarification. Lol kinda feeds into my whole let's call things more accurately debate.

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