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  • N neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    I got an 87 F150 that hauls trash and kayaks... what's my status?

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    5in1k@lemmy.zip
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    My 08 hauls so many kayaks and has enabled so many cool adventures.

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    • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

      In memory of my 95 extended cab

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      darkfuture@lemmy.world
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      Yeah I really don't get it.

      I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

      I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

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      • A al_kaholic@lemmynsfw.com

        If only there was another way to acquire a vehicle created with the intention of moving large items. That way You-haul it for way less then owning maintaining and the price difference in gas. They should also make these available at every big box home improvement store. The cyber truck was created for you have a nice day.

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        5in1k@lemmy.zip
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        It’ll never be cheaper for me to own a car and rent a truck every other weekend and two 10 day weeks a year for my vacations than owning my truck. I’m not hauling kayaks and bikes and stuff in a car. I’ve done it, no. Go drive to the UP in a Home Depot rental truck. Yah ok boss.

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        • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

          Very inefficient cars would burn a ton of fuel and then consumers would be paying a fortune in fuel taxes.

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          nialv7@lemmy.world
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          Depends on how high you make the tax, lower priced car might offset that.

          And gas tax also disproportionately affect the poorer population, for many of them cars are mandatory because of commuting, etc. And those who are well-off might just not care about the tax.

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          • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD darkfuture@lemmy.world

            Yeah I really don't get it.

            I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

            I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

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            opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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            Is your username a reference to the Greydon Clark movie?

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            • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD darkfuture@lemmy.world

              Yeah I really don't get it.

              I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

              I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

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              chuckleslord@lemmy.world
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              When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

              So... either you'll be buying used or not a truck.

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              • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD darkfuture@lemmy.world

                Yeah I really don't get it.

                I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

                I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

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                lepoisson@lemmy.world
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                It's because they're emotional support vehicles for suburban dudes who have an incredibly fragile ego. What they need is a van or a "sensible" SUV or even just y'know a fuckin car but these men are too sensitive and scared to drive one of those so they buy a truck as a family car instead.

                It's kind of pathetic honestly.

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                • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                  In memory of my 95 extended cab

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                  stupidcasey@lemmy.world
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                  Back then I was told the extended beds suck because they had more leverage and the frame was more likely to snap with a real load and you should use a gooseneck trailer anyways

                  No Idea how true this is but Hay if the extra length is harmful anyways then might as well shrink it more.

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                  • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                    In memory of my 95 extended cab

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                    captpretentious@lemmy.world
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                    So today's 'trucks' have just slightly more storage space than my old Mini Cooper did. Neat. Like can you legit fit like a bike or 4-wheeler in that?

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                    • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                      They're a vanishing breed. I was searching Autotrader for a compact pickup, and the only thing I found was a Mazda B2300 ... from 1986. I can't use that - I'd be too worried about damaging it. It's a collector's item.

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                      brenstar@programming.dev
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                      I definitely feel that! I bought it knowing that I will have to do all my own maintenance and repairs, which is terrifying but doable. I had to promise myself that if it ever gets wrecked, I’ll have to restore it at any cost, because there simply aren’t that many left out there.

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                      • N nialv7@lemmy.world

                        Depends on how high you make the tax, lower priced car might offset that.

                        And gas tax also disproportionately affect the poorer population, for many of them cars are mandatory because of commuting, etc. And those who are well-off might just not care about the tax.

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                        chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                        That’s the case with all Pigouvian taxes.

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                        • B bromswolligans@lemmy.world

                          I think you know what I meant. Most people who need a truck need a truck like mine. Obviously most people don't need a truck. I only have one because the last few years have required a lot of work on my house and yard. Whenever all that wraps up I'll swap it back out for another car.

                          People toss out the "you just need a buddy with a truck" or "you just need to rent one" thing so much but those things require you to bend your life around, say, inconveniencing people to borrow / hoping their schedule accommodates, or, having to go collect, use, pay for, and return during a narrow window of time a rented truck, which, yes, is fine for one day, but if again, you've got years of unpredictable needs ahead of you, it's not a sin to buy a cheap, well-used truck as a second or third vehicle so you've always got it when you need it. And in that case, those "most people" need a truck like mine_.

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                          outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          Im not saying you don't. If your main hobby/job is construction/rennovation; it makes sense. That's pretty rare.

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                          • B bluewing@lemmy.world

                            So, someone else needs to own and pay for such a vehicle just you can mooch off of them for free?

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                            outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            Yes. I'm glad we understand each other.

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                            • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

                              That’s the case with all Pigouvian taxes.

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                              nialv7@lemmy.world
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                              Pigouvian taxes

                              oh i didn't even know there is a word for this class of taxes, thanks. i guess that's why it felt intuitively wrong to me even though i can't quite put my finger on it. maybe i just have a general aversion towards Pigouvian taxes.

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                              • B bluewing@lemmy.world

                                So where do you apartment dwellers store your trailer?

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                                outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                Honestly don't want cars to exist. But the same placd as everyone else; in a parking spot?that's what towing is. Car brains are the least creative things in the world.

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                                • B bluewing@lemmy.world

                                  Nope. He's saying that the weight of the battery pack eats up 2000lbs of towing capacity. Plus the shit frames they are built on to cut weight to help due to the battery packs.

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                                  outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  Ill be honest; i mostly know about trains which are just better than cars

                                  But i know electric motors are much torqier than combustion.

                                  And i don't suuuuper care about the particulars, because we shouldn't have cars and cannot keep burning fossil fuels.

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                                  • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                                    In memory of my 95 extended cab

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                                    ohlaph@lemmy.world
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                                    Red is peak truck for me.

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                                    • 5 5in1k@lemmy.zip

                                      It’ll never be cheaper for me to own a car and rent a truck every other weekend and two 10 day weeks a year for my vacations than owning my truck. I’m not hauling kayaks and bikes and stuff in a car. I’ve done it, no. Go drive to the UP in a Home Depot rental truck. Yah ok boss.

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                                      al_kaholic@lemmynsfw.com
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                                      Hey dumb dumb you ain't the guy we are talking about sounds like you would use the truck. But I'm sure you are going up north to secluded location where there isn't any pavement or launches definitely no way you could just rent a kayak/canoe, ain't no business like that you could probably make a fortune. If only there was some contraption to attach your bike to say a roof or a trunk another million dollar idea. Good luck with your denial.

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                                      • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                                        In memory of my 95 extended cab

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                                        rekabis@lemmy.ca
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                                        A “regular bed” has always been an 8ft bed for the last 60-odd years. Look at any full-sized Ford, GMC, AMC, or Chevrolet pickup from the 70s, 80s, or 90s -- it’s nearly impossible to find one with anything but an 8ft bed. If you wanted anything shorter you went with a “toy truck” like the Mazda B2000 to B2600i, or a Toyota Tacoma.

                                        It’s just the utter lack of 8ft beds in full-sized modern (last 10-15 years) trucks that has had the industry reclassifying uselessly lobotomized truck beds as “regular” and normal-length beds as “extended”

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                                        • N nialv7@lemmy.world

                                          Depends on how high you make the tax, lower priced car might offset that.

                                          And gas tax also disproportionately affect the poorer population, for many of them cars are mandatory because of commuting, etc. And those who are well-off might just not care about the tax.

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                                          burninator05@lemmy.world
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                                          Shift the tax to vehicle weight with a separate scale for electric cars but don't have exceptions for commercial vehicles that could be used as private vehicles. For example, exempt cement trucks but not f350 dualies. It sucks that anyone with a legit business need for a f350 will get hit but that'll just be the cost of doing business.

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