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  • L leftytighty@slrpnk.net

    LLMs are large language models, they're a specialized category of artificial neural network, which are a way of doing machine learning. All of those topics are under the academic computer science discipline of artificial intelligence.

    AI, neural net, or ML model are all way more accurate to say than LLM in this case.

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    thejoker954@lemmy.world
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    I have to disagree with you. Ai is never a more accurate way to describe what we have now. Not until they call true ai something different.

    I know its a weird hill to die on, but die on it I will. Calling one artifical intelligence and one virtual intelligence could work.

    Also it's my understanding that LLMs are considered a type of neural net so I don't see it being more accurate to call it a neural net vs a llm.

    And they are all subsets of machine learning so calling it an ml model leads me back to the same issue I have with "ai". (And the same reason those loser usb fucks can suck a bag of dildos) lack of clairty of what it actually can do.

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    • S spujb@lemmy.cafe

      edit to clarify a misconception in the comments, this is an instagram post so “caption” refers to the description under the image or video

      as an example, this text i am typing now is also a “caption”

      just saying because someone started a debate misunderstanding this to be about subtitles (aka “closed captions”) and that’s just not the case 👍

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      resistai@lemmy.world
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      Disabled people using their disability as a reason to defend ai but not acknowledging that disabled people will be the first to suffer when it comes to the climate crisis, water crisis, displacement, lack of privacy, and all kinds of inequity. Ai is not here to help disabled people, its here to further capitalist billionaire goals.

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      • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

        I have to disagree with you. Ai is never a more accurate way to describe what we have now. Not until they call true ai something different.

        I know its a weird hill to die on, but die on it I will. Calling one artifical intelligence and one virtual intelligence could work.

        Also it's my understanding that LLMs are considered a type of neural net so I don't see it being more accurate to call it a neural net vs a llm.

        And they are all subsets of machine learning so calling it an ml model leads me back to the same issue I have with "ai". (And the same reason those loser usb fucks can suck a bag of dildos) lack of clairty of what it actually can do.

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        leftytighty@slrpnk.net
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        #20

        A dog is a kind of animal but that doesn't mean you can describe every animal as a dog.

        The term for "true" AI is artificial general intelligence.

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        • J justjack23@slrpnk.net

          Understandable, AI marketing now is a shitshot, but they are not even AI I think. Just people forget that tech used to do magic before AI existed.

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          butterymonkey@piefed.social
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          This is a big part of it. Back when ai was first becoming big, my manager said they needed to run all my kb articles through an ai to generate link clouds or some such.

          I was like umm.. that’s a service this platform has always offered..? Like just because you don’t know what the kb tools do, or what our rock bottom subscription gets us, doesn’t mean I haven’t looked into it.. but that also isn’t worth doing because now we only have a handful of articles in any given category because I’m good at my job..

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          • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

            Subtitles is a perfect use case for LLMs.

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            forkdestroyer@infosec.pub
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            #22

            Crunchyroll really messed up their subs with AI. Not sure if they mean LLMs and are just calling it AI but still:

            https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-02-27/crunchyroll-confirms-testing-a.i-for-subtitling/.208086

            Kept wondering why subtitles were so obviously off when I was watching some stuff. It was horrid.

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            • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

              Subtitles is a perfect use case for LLMs.

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              spujb@lemmy.cafe
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              #23

              to clarify we are talking about a post caption, not closed captions.

              that is, the text you put in the description of an image or video post.

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              • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

                I have to disagree with you. Ai is never a more accurate way to describe what we have now. Not until they call true ai something different.

                I know its a weird hill to die on, but die on it I will. Calling one artifical intelligence and one virtual intelligence could work.

                Also it's my understanding that LLMs are considered a type of neural net so I don't see it being more accurate to call it a neural net vs a llm.

                And they are all subsets of machine learning so calling it an ml model leads me back to the same issue I have with "ai". (And the same reason those loser usb fucks can suck a bag of dildos) lack of clairty of what it actually can do.

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                mummyslittlebloodslut@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                You need to spend less time watching movies and more time watching computer science lectures. We had AI back in the 1960s.

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                • T turret3857@infosec.pub

                  It definitely is. As someone who actually struggles with severe ADHD this comment makes my piss boil.

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                  natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  #25

                  I second that, this person is actually just lazy. I got ADHD and I always add fucking alt text, it's part of the normal post routine no matter if I took my meds or not. And it's not like you can't edit it into posts if you clicked send too quickly.

                  I'd even argue it makes your social media experience better. Forces awareness to what you do, gives you time to reflect on your post.

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                  • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

                    Subtitles is a perfect use case for LLMs.

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                    natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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                    #26

                    Fuck no.

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                    • natanox@discuss.tchncs.deN natanox@discuss.tchncs.de

                      I second that, this person is actually just lazy. I got ADHD and I always add fucking alt text, it's part of the normal post routine no matter if I took my meds or not. And it's not like you can't edit it into posts if you clicked send too quickly.

                      I'd even argue it makes your social media experience better. Forces awareness to what you do, gives you time to reflect on your post.

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                      una@europe.pub
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                      There was someone on tiktok defending AI "art", who says that he has ADHD and how it is hard for him to concentrate on art and how AI makes his life "easier" by allowing him to feel like he did something, don't remember exactly but it was something like that. But he also forgot how many disabled people there are, with different disabilities, and still be able to make like perfect art. He also mentioned how he wasn't born with talent, not like talent doesn't really exist.

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                      • una@europe.pubU una@europe.pub

                        There was someone on tiktok defending AI "art", who says that he has ADHD and how it is hard for him to concentrate on art and how AI makes his life "easier" by allowing him to feel like he did something, don't remember exactly but it was something like that. But he also forgot how many disabled people there are, with different disabilities, and still be able to make like perfect art. He also mentioned how he wasn't born with talent, not like talent doesn't really exist.

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                        baked86@lemmy.world
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                        #28

                        Probably self diagnosed with whatever cool disorder is hot right now

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                        • J justjack23@slrpnk.net

                          Understandable, AI marketing now is a shitshot, but they are not even AI I think. Just people forget that tech used to do magic before AI existed.

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                          lwl@lemmy.world
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                          It's kind of the other way around, we've always had AI, it used to just basically mean a computer making some decision based on data. Like a thermostat changing the heating in response to a temperature change.

                          Then we got LLMs and because they are good at pretending to have complex reasoning ability, AI as a term started to always mean "computer with near human level intelligence" which of course they are absolutely not.

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                          • B baked86@lemmy.world

                            Probably self diagnosed with whatever cool disorder is hot right now

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                            princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            #30

                            How is this related to what you're replying too? Just seems ableist. Like the other person said, the TikTok-er says they have ADHD. I totally get why the instant gratification of AI could be nice with ADHD, that's why I avoid it at all costs.

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                            • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

                              Subtitles is a perfect use case for LLMs.

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                              princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              #31

                              Automatic subtitles like on YouTube use Machine Learning, NOT a Large Language Model.

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                              • Z ziglin@lemmy.world

                                How would an llm fix a mistake equivalent to something being misheard? I feel like you're misunderstanding something and could probably also use some help with your English.

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                                princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                #32

                                [...]could probably also use some help with your English.

                                what the actual fluff is up with lemmy.world accounts in this thread acting like jerks?

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                                • L lwl@lemmy.world

                                  It's kind of the other way around, we've always had AI, it used to just basically mean a computer making some decision based on data. Like a thermostat changing the heating in response to a temperature change.

                                  Then we got LLMs and because they are good at pretending to have complex reasoning ability, AI as a term started to always mean "computer with near human level intelligence" which of course they are absolutely not.

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                                  justjack23@slrpnk.net
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                                  There was a book I can't remember, the whole thesis was exactly that. "AI is whatever automates the decision making process" not any group of algos

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                                  • T thejoker954@lemmy.world

                                    I have to disagree with you. Ai is never a more accurate way to describe what we have now. Not until they call true ai something different.

                                    I know its a weird hill to die on, but die on it I will. Calling one artifical intelligence and one virtual intelligence could work.

                                    Also it's my understanding that LLMs are considered a type of neural net so I don't see it being more accurate to call it a neural net vs a llm.

                                    And they are all subsets of machine learning so calling it an ml model leads me back to the same issue I have with "ai". (And the same reason those loser usb fucks can suck a bag of dildos) lack of clairty of what it actually can do.

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                                    princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    #34

                                    Then call it ML or a neural net. Using the term LLM like you are for other forms of machine learning is just going to cause needless confusion, like it has in this thread.

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                                    • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      [...]could probably also use some help with your English.

                                      what the actual fluff is up with lemmy.world accounts in this thread acting like jerks?

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                                      0x2640@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                      #35

                                      lemmy.world accounts acting like jerks

                                      many such cases

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                                      • S spujb@lemmy.cafe

                                        edit to clarify a misconception in the comments, this is an instagram post so “caption” refers to the description under the image or video

                                        as an example, this text i am typing now is also a “caption”

                                        just saying because someone started a debate misunderstanding this to be about subtitles (aka “closed captions”) and that’s just not the case 👍

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                                        meaanbeaan@lemmy.world
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                                        If you're capable enough to bitch about being too disabled to use your brain. You're capable enough to write your own caption.

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                                        • Z ziglin@lemmy.world

                                          How would an llm fix a mistake equivalent to something being misheard? I feel like you're misunderstanding something and could probably also use some help with your English.

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                                          badjojo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                          #37

                                          Be nice (Rule 2).

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