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      henfredemars@infosec.pub
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      Really should keep that PPA use to a minimum. They're potentially a source of not just instability but possible malware as you're putting a lot of trust in whoever maintains that resource.

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        marcos@lemmy.world
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        Break your system and it's broken.

        How unexpected!

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          redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          OP hasn't used AUR much

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            jim3692@discuss.online
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            nix flake update
            nixos-rebuild --switch --flake .
            
            # Just to keep an update history
            git add flake.lock
            git commit -m "update"
            

            This may seem like too much work, but it guarantees an all-or-nothing procedure. If some package is broken, the entire upgrade process is canceled, and the system remains in the state that it was.

            I have had a couple of partial upgrade cases on Arch. It was not fun live booting to repair it, every time this happened.

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            • H henfredemars@infosec.pub

              Really should keep that PPA use to a minimum. They're potentially a source of not just instability but possible malware as you're putting a lot of trust in whoever maintains that resource.

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              jim3692@discuss.online
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              When I use Debian/Ubuntu, I prefer installing missing/outdated software from Nix package manager or Flatpaks.

              This way, I can keep a stable core, while being able to enjoy all the latest versions of the apps that I need.

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                flemtone@lemmy.world
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                I find debian more stable than arch, especially when updating.

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                  theleadensea@sh.itjust.works
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                  presses the big blue 'update' button in GNOME Software in Fedora

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                    friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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                    ujust update

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                      comradenokotan@lemmy.zip
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                      I saw someone on ml point out that update should come before upgrade

                      Sauce

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                      • comradenokotan@lemmy.zipC comradenokotan@lemmy.zip

                        I saw someone on ml point out that update should come before upgrade

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                        bleistift2@sopuli.xyz
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                        update pulls the metadata about your packages (to see if there are new versions, and which), while upgrade applies the patches.

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                        • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB bleistift2@sopuli.xyz

                          update pulls the metadata about your packages (to see if there are new versions, and which), while upgrade applies the patches.

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                          zwiebel@feddit.org
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                          I've never understood why the update part isn't included in the upgrade command, since upgrade is useless without it

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                          • F friend_of_satan@lemmy.world

                            ujust update

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                            zwiebel@feddit.org
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                            Isn't that just topgrade

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                              Isn't that just topgrade

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                              friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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                              I'm honestly not sure. https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/main/system_files/desktop/shared/usr/share/ublue-os/just/10-update.just

                              The bazzite motd says use ujust

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                              • R redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                OP hasn't used AUR much

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                                eldritch@piefed.world
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                                You don't even have to use the aur are to have breaking changes. Most recently they changed how vlc was packaged. And broke it causing a lot of problems for users.

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                                • eldritch@piefed.worldE eldritch@piefed.world

                                  You don't even have to use the aur are to have breaking changes. Most recently they changed how vlc was packaged. And broke it causing a lot of problems for users.

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                                  redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  That's pretty rare. I ran arch for years and my only issues were from AUR or trying to update extremely out of date machines.

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                                  • H henfredemars@infosec.pub

                                    Really should keep that PPA use to a minimum. They're potentially a source of not just instability but possible malware as you're putting a lot of trust in whoever maintains that resource.

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                                    manxu@piefed.social
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                                    Especially because there is no way to limit the packages installed from a PPA AFAIK. If the PPA has a "new" version of NGINX, or of libc, or of Wayland - you get it, too!!!

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