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German welfare state 'can no longer be financed' — Merz

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  • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

    The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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    umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    there you go, they finally said it out loud. austerity it is.

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    • umbrella@lemmy.mlU umbrella@lemmy.ml

      there you go, they finally said it out loud. austerity it is.

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      darleys_brew@lemmy.ml
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      Austerity doesn’t even work. It’s deliberate cruelty.

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      • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

        The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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        upperbroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        All this while systematically crippling our tax investigation departments.

        If I ever meet Merz or someone like him, I will have choice words to say.

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        • S slaacaa@lemmy.world

          The capitalist elite has less problem with fascism than socialism. Only one of those threatens their wealth

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          avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
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          In the short term. Both threaten their wealth in the long run. Fascism still wins out.

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          • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

            The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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            corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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            ... without the rich paying their share.

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            • M marsza@lemmy.cafe

              How’s your Spanish? I hear good things about Chile.

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              soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Good enough to be understood but not good enough to not use idioms incorrectly. For example, I spent a solid five minutes trying to remember if "así así" or "ni fu ni fa" can apply to competency before throwing my hands up.

              Mediocre. Mi español es mediocre.

              I just need practice.

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              • D darleys_brew@lemmy.ml

                Austerity doesn’t even work. It’s deliberate cruelty.

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                rafoix@lemmy.zip
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                It works for the wealthy. It saves them a lot of money on taxes.

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                • U upperbroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                  All this while systematically crippling our tax investigation departments.

                  If I ever meet Merz or someone like him, I will have choice words to say.

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                  blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                  Words alone have never stopped fascists.

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                  • R rafoix@lemmy.zip

                    It works for the wealthy. It saves them a lot of money on taxes.

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                    darleys_brew@lemmy.ml
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                    It’s short sighted though.

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                    • D darleys_brew@lemmy.ml

                      It’s short sighted though.

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                      rafoix@lemmy.zip
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                      It’s not short sighted for the wealthy. Over the last 40 years, the wealthy have amassed massive amounts of income and wealth. It worked out great for them and the politicians that they purchase.

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                      • E evono@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        While I couldn't find the article anymore ( it's a bit old ) I just found one for 12 for 170 thousand.

                        Another where they pay 20k for each because they are circular and more.

                        Tax waste is just all surrounding.

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                        null@piefed.au
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                        So you're just making things up based on the vibe.

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                        • umbrella@lemmy.mlU umbrella@lemmy.ml

                          there you go, they finally said it out loud. austerity it is.

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                          rooty@lemmy.world
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                          "Why isn't anyone having kids? I specifically requested it."

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                          • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

                            The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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                            treczoks@lemmy.world
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                            Then how about stopping welfare for millionaires?

                            Or stop subsiding e.g. plane fuel. Better for the environment anyway.

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                            • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

                              The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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                              phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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                              Merz is a conservative. They're all like that.

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                              • microwave@lemmy.worldM microwave@lemmy.world

                                The German chancellor has called for a welfare reform, putting him on course for a possible clash with the SPD.

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                                toad31@lemmy.cif.su
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                                Sure it can.

                                Just raise taxes on the wealthy.

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                                • M marsza@lemmy.cafe

                                  How’s your Spanish? I hear good things about Chile.

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                                  ragas@lemmy.ml
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                                  This Chile?

                                  https://finance.yahoo.com/video/violent-clashes-erupt-chile-protests-025713342.html
                                  https://redherald.org/2025/08/16/thousands-mobilize-and-struggle-in-chile/

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                                  • soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                    My partner and I almost moved to Germany last year and I am so glad we didn't. If we're going to be in a fascist country, I'd prefer to be a citizen since white fascists tend to frown extra hard on us brown immigrants.

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                                    ragas@lemmy.ml
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                                    While the current government in Germany is certainly not the best, it is very far away from a fascist country.

                                    Most likely the right wing CDU talks big now to wiggle out some small concessions against their socialist coalition partner and againt the green/left opposition.

                                    They can not change anything big because otherwise the current coalition would fold.

                                    The CDU can not form a coalition or cooperate with the ultra right AFD because that would cost them a big chunk of their current voters.

                                    They currently have nothing going for them that would win them voters on their own.

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                                    • P petrjanda@gonzo.markets

                                      They will just move to the next country.

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                                      ragas@lemmy.ml
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                                      Let them. If they don't pay their share, they are not worth keeping.

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                                      • D darleys_brew@lemmy.ml

                                        It’s short sighted though.

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                                        rapchee@lemmy.world
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                                        if you assume that they want what they say

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                                        • R rafoix@lemmy.zip

                                          It’s not short sighted for the wealthy. Over the last 40 years, the wealthy have amassed massive amounts of income and wealth. It worked out great for them and the politicians that they purchase.

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                                          darleys_brew@lemmy.ml
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                                          My view is that it will ultimately ruin the country. Has in the U.K.

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