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What do you use for music library streaming?

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  • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

    I was hoping to go all in with Jellyfin, but it's been absolutely maddening to try to get it to play nice with my curated library. It just makes too many dumb assumptions about artist metadata.

    Any other suggestions?

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    verstra@programming.dev
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    Jellyfin, and yes it thinks its very cleaver with mumbling metadata.

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    • V verstra@programming.dev

      Jellyfin, and yes it thinks its very cleaver with mumbling metadata.

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      wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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      > be Jellyfin

      > see a track in an album with a "... feat. ..." artist tag

      "This must be a completely different artist than the album artist!"

      > create somehow fucking immutable new metadata

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      • C curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Navidrome

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        ctry21@sh.itjust.works
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        +1 for Navidrome. As simple as pasting the album into the directory and it sorts the rest. I use subtune on my phone to access it and it works great.

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        • C curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          Navidrome

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          wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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          I tried their demo, and I really dig the minimalist approach. Might give it a shot.

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          • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

            > be Jellyfin

            > see a track in an album with a "... feat. ..." artist tag

            "This must be a completely different artist than the album artist!"

            > create somehow fucking immutable new metadata

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            gccalvin@lemmy.world
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            I also use Jellyfin. Before being able to set custom tag delimiters, you had to ensure your music artists and album artists ID3 tags were correct. I believe it used a ';' to separate multiple artists. Now with custom delimiters you can set your own. You may be able to try and fix things by setting 'feat.' as a custom tag.

            Ultimately, I would recommend just using mp3tag and spending a few minutes setting up an action that replaces 'feat.' with a delimiter, such as a '|'. Run it through your current library and you should be good.

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            • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

              I was hoping to go all in with Jellyfin, but it's been absolutely maddening to try to get it to play nice with my curated library. It just makes too many dumb assumptions about artist metadata.

              Any other suggestions?

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              kolanaki@pawb.social
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              #9

              I still use Samba to do everything related to filesharing (including music streaming). I haven't needed to touch my media server in years. It just continues to work. 🤷‍♂️

              Since it's just normal network filesharing, pretty much any music player that has samba support works. On a PC, I like Winamp. On my phone, VLC.

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              • G gccalvin@lemmy.world

                I also use Jellyfin. Before being able to set custom tag delimiters, you had to ensure your music artists and album artists ID3 tags were correct. I believe it used a ';' to separate multiple artists. Now with custom delimiters you can set your own. You may be able to try and fix things by setting 'feat.' as a custom tag.

                Ultimately, I would recommend just using mp3tag and spending a few minutes setting up an action that replaces 'feat.' with a delimiter, such as a '|'. Run it through your current library and you should be good.

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                wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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                Thank you for the info. I might try this, however I'm already having a 10x better experience now that I've set up Navidrome, and then tried the Symphonium client.

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                • C curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  Navidrome

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                  tenebrisnox@feddit.uk
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                  Agree with Navidrome. Works great in browser and the Substreamer ios app.

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                  • thagoat@lemmy.sdf.orgT thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org

                    Gonic works very well with symfonium

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                    nfms@lemmy.ml
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                    I'm using airsonic with symfonium, gotta check Gonic (it's been mentioned twice in the comments)

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                    • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

                      I was hoping to go all in with Jellyfin, but it's been absolutely maddening to try to get it to play nice with my curated library. It just makes too many dumb assumptions about artist metadata.

                      Any other suggestions?

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                      kerobaros@lemmy.world
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                      beets for library organization, gonic for serving, Tempo for consuming

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                      • C curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        Navidrome

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                        jhdeval@lemmy.world
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                        Another vote for navidrome. I tried substreamer on android ibdid not like the search. I use symfonium easy interface let's me randomize in many ways.

                        On a side question anybody have suggestions for automatically creating genre based m3u files? I would like to setup "radio" like stations but adding my music to a playlist.

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                        • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

                          I was hoping to go all in with Jellyfin, but it's been absolutely maddening to try to get it to play nice with my curated library. It just makes too many dumb assumptions about artist metadata.

                          Any other suggestions?

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                          domi@lemmy.secnd.me
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                          I use Jellyfin but I download all my songs from Tidal, Qobuz or Deezer and tag them automatically right then and there in a clean format so Jellyfin does not have to guess at all.

                          I also have some automatic checks in place to convert incorrect metadata to a proper format. Like moving artists from the title (feat. Somebody else) to the artists tag Somebody; Somebody else and a bunch more.

                          Together with Finamp on desktop and mobile everything is pretty much working as expected.

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                          • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

                            Thank you for the info. I might try this, however I'm already having a 10x better experience now that I've set up Navidrome, and then tried the Symphonium client.

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                            gedaliyah@lemmy.world
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                            I did this for a while, and only switched back to Jellyfin/Finamp while degoogling (needed for paid version). I thought it was definitely worth it while I was using it. I also listen to music on the TV and Jellyfin handles it better than other options I tried (including side-loading symfonium).

                            I currently use a separate music library manager on my server to organize my music collection, then Jellyfin just does the server work.

                            I think you'll be very happy with the setup you are using.

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                              Another vote for navidrome. I tried substreamer on android ibdid not like the search. I use symfonium easy interface let's me randomize in many ways.

                              On a side question anybody have suggestions for automatically creating genre based m3u files? I would like to setup "radio" like stations but adding my music to a playlist.

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                              curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              Filter by genre tag to make the finding part easier?

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                                Jellyfin, and yes it thinks its very cleaver with mumbling metadata.

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                                phr34ky@lemmy.world
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                                Oh, you have 10 random singles in the same directory? That must be an album all from the same artist!

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                                  Navidrome

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                                  roofuskit@lemmy.world
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                                  There really isn't any decent alternative. I can run 4 Navidrome servers along side each other using less resources than a single copy of the alternatives. It just works and does almost everything you could want.

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                                  • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

                                    I was hoping to go all in with Jellyfin, but it's been absolutely maddening to try to get it to play nice with my curated library. It just makes too many dumb assumptions about artist metadata.

                                    Any other suggestions?

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                                    suzune@ani.social
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                                    At the moment I'm trying out Ampache. It seems to have more features than Gonic.

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                                    • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW wesker@lemmy.sdf.org

                                      I was hoping to go all in with Jellyfin, but it's been absolutely maddening to try to get it to play nice with my curated library. It just makes too many dumb assumptions about artist metadata.

                                      Any other suggestions?

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                                      rumba@lemmy.zip
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                                      Careful curation of mp3 tags and a short leash.

                                      My Plex and Jellyfin libraries are the same files and they are both handled identically because I don't let them think about the files.

                                      I used a tool to export my Plex playlists as XML, then wrote a little python to convert them into M3U, jellyfin recognizes the M3 use and just makes playlists.

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                                      • K kerobaros@lemmy.world

                                        beets for library organization, gonic for serving, Tempo for consuming

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                                        quantenzitrone@lemmings.world
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                                        did you know, that the gonic developer sentriz is developing a beets alternative in go https://github.com/sentriz/wrtag

                                        it works quite well, but lacks a lot of the features of beets

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                                        • quantenzitrone@lemmings.worldQ quantenzitrone@lemmings.world

                                          did you know, that the gonic developer sentriz is developing a beets alternative in go https://github.com/sentriz/wrtag

                                          it works quite well, but lacks a lot of the features of beets

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                                          kerobaros@lemmy.world
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                                          I'll keep an eye on that, thank you, but I've been using beets to maintain a very large library for 10+ years and I'm very happy with it. It was the only software I found to cure my foobar2000 addiction way back when

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